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Copenhagen and the demise of Green Utopia : Comments

By Benny Peiser, published 20/1/2010

Copenhagen was an historical watershed that marked the beginning of the end of climate hysteria and symbolised the loss of Western dominance.

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Examinator, you can trivialize and excuse the IPCC’s performance as minor errors if you wish however, these are not trivial because $billions of public money has and is being spent as a direct consequence of their “assessments”.

(IPCC AR4 WG2 Ch10, p. 493) "Glaciers in the Himalaya are receding faster than in any other part of the world (see Table 10.9) and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate.”

The original report by glaciologist V. M. Kotlyakov has been held by the IEP. His assessment is, given that if the IPCC’s “predicted” warming continues, there will be 80% glacial loss by “2350” not 2035, note that even this is based upon the IPCC’s warming “prediction”.

The IPCC makes yet another blunder in the AR4 report, the Table 10.9 to which they refer shows a retreat rate of 134 m/yr but the actual rate was 23 m/yr, this is because of a small error. The IPCC divided the timeframe quoted by 21 years instead of 121 years!

There are now dozens of indictments leveled at the IPCC and their key personnel because almost every aspect of their “people and processes” has been compromised. If the people and processes are compromised, all their output is compromised.

For the IPCC and its lead authors it is only the accuracy of their output and their probity that matters. If it is determined that their assessments are so wrong that financial or other damage has been done, it is fraud by either malicious intent or incompetence and they will face the music.

You keep hissing at those you label deniers. I would rather reject the IPCC’s nonsense and be accused of denial, than to face the world as a true believer of AGW supported by the IPCC’s fraudulent rubbish. Don’t you realize the by making excuses for them you are accepting their culpability?

Like I said before, you lack the embarrassment gene.
Posted by spindoc, Monday, 25 January 2010 2:16:08 PM
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Errrr, I have not heard anyone say;

"The science is settled !"

recently, have you ?
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:35:36 AM
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Amended post.
Now for Amazongate !
http://wattsupwiththat.com/

Benny Peiser draws attention to the loss of credibility of the IPCC.
If I might enumerate;

1. The hockey stick.
2. The email publicising. Not a hack, but an inside job I believe.
3. The New Zealand temperature problem.
4. The Himalayan glaciers melt by 2035 blunder.
5. The acceptance of donations to study the melt while knowing it was wrong.
6. The Stern report error & cover up of the amount of damage expected
from hurricanes, cyclones etc etc.
7. The ripping off of the Europeans by the Russian Oligarchs of CO2 credits.
Have I missed any ?
Yes
8. Amazon forest effects same source as Glaciagate

This it would seem is only the beginning.

I think the demands of the developing countries for money was a
transparent bit of blackmail and together with China's demand that
"Trust me" was the way to go when we all see blatant Chinese ripoffs
of intellectual property rights, was a trust too far.

I just wonder how many countries were aware of the seven points I made
above and basically had had enough.
Copenhagen was doomed by the IPCC's bad management and developing
countries greed and western distrust.

It now seems to be getting ridiculous, now a daily event.
I suppose once people find one case they go looking and find others.
I started on this being agnostic and not knowing which way was up.
I am now very sceptical and will take a lot of convincing that AGW is true.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 3:08:00 PM
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