Notice how all the Global Warmers make predicitons so far in advance they can't possibly held accountable for them? Rudd's good at it too.
2100, 2050. I 'd like to hear something from a Global Warmer about 2012 but I won't of course because it can be tested they can be held accountable.

Hell, Al Gore says 20 ft and James Hansen says 25 metres. These guys are just amateurs at alarming people.

I want to buy a cheap house by the seaside right now. But I can't because no-one really believes this crap and prices remain high.

Atman: Spot on, ignore it and it will go away. What we don't know can't hurt us right.

Atman,
anytime you discover a problem with the now very old finding of Fourier, that certain gas mixtures absorb and retain more heat than "air", you be sure to tell all the major journals. In the meantime, beyond stupendous ignorance, what are you going on? Your own opinion? thought so.

Rusty

Arjay
We are already betting on it. Just the payoff (or loss) wont be in dollars.

If the deniers have their way and they are wrong the losses will be catastrophic with billions dead and suffering.
If the other side holds sway and they are wrong the losses will be a slight lessening of our headlong growth and progress and a few less billionaires.
If the deniers have their way and they are right the payoff will be .. well ... business as usual.
If the supporters of AGW get listened to and they are right then the payoff will be a much cleaner and sustainable world hopefully more equal and inclusive.

Looks like the logical bet is against the deniers no matter which way you look at it.

yes mikk, Pascal's wager, slightly updated, didn't work back then, won't work now.

Chanting little ditties, is not science, but understandable for people who don't care about the science and want to change the world to a different system, using whatever excuse is handy - socialism was tried and failed, you know, or maybe you don't.

Check out the guys who run the world, USA, and Europe, next is China, all capitalist societies - and no one even gets close to the US. Capitalism rules, OK!

You guys flip from economics to science to dogma and have no idea what you want, except, everything has to change.

Discovering your prophets are not trustworthy doesn't bother you all at all, what a surprise, since it's not about science anyway is it?

The sea levels rise and fall, no problem, we'll adapt we always will adapt.

So, on the one hand the IPCC is prepared to sound the alarm re the glaciers “very likely” vanishing by 2035, on the basis of a speculative comment dropped into a telephone conversation by one scientist (after being warned that the speculation was arrant nonsense); but on the other hand it wasn’t prepared to sound the alarm on “what is likely to be the most important source of sea level rise in the 21st century” the melting of Antarctica (which is presently increasing more rapidly in the east than it is decreasing in the west)?

So should we sign our means of livelihood over to UN administered serfdom to “solve” this alarming “problem”?

Hmm – I think rpg’s idea might be better, let’s keep our industries, agriculture, cheap energy and freedom, and deal with such problems that occur as they occur - that way we might have the freedom and wherewithal to handle whatever does actually happen as it happens: warming, cooling, rising, falling or whatever.