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Violence on the train to Camberwell : Comments

By Tim Watts, published 12/1/2010

Victorians need to send a message of aggressive intolerance towards the racist and prejudiced bottom crawlers in our society.

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partimeparent - I haven't heard that, I kind of doubt it really since it is very difficult to tell someone's religion by looking at them, well it is for me
Posted by Amicus, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 8:55:35 AM
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Nothing will be achieved until there is some truth and honesty in this debate. Until perpetrators are caught and motivations ascertained, it is a waste of time to speculate on any one particular act of violence.

As far as India is concerned, the Government just needs to reassure India that the investigation is being carried out and all is being done to bring the criminals to account.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 9:27:29 AM
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David,. Multi –cultures you often require a police state to deal with it. Singapore is an example of this and why they DON’T have clashes everyday.

No, we should never understand why people bring their hate from historic conflicts. We should not have to tolerate it at all. Zero tolerance. Some come to escape this brutality and we just accept it? Too bad? Get over it?

Indian Students riot due to ethnic gangs targeting them in Harris Park in Sydney , the same ethnic gangs whose reign of terror sparked the Cronulla riots. People do not riot of they feel justice is served and the state protects them. Denial is the reasons these riots occurred. Denial.

Part time parent is correct. Much of the violence has been by minorities. Why? Imported historic conflicts or prejudices? That could be the case but denial only increases fear. Only a few race related attacks instils fear in many.

Ethnic leaders demanded race not be publicly known when these types of attacks occur because it damages the image of their group. This is wrong. It does not create vilification of an entire ethnic community, it is denial that creates frenzy and the outright vilification of a race. When the attacks first were reported the prejudiced and racist people simply decided it was white subjecting them to racial vilification on a horrific scale. Only white can be Australian according to many – racist! Nice try but the world has shown how prejudice it is to make such an assumption. So apparently anglo also started to resent Indians. Prejudice breeds prejudice.. Circles start when issues are denied!

It is so easy. If a victim claims any sort of hate crime against them then the victim should have the protection of the state and the police. Trying playing denial games, you get riots.

Nobody seems to understand this concept so we should deem multi-cultural policy a failure. It is clear we have a problem. Cannot find anywhere on earth where this utopia exists. We are reminded daily it does not work. Why deny it.
Posted by TheMissus, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 11:05:08 AM
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"Indian students seem to like sex crimes, paedophilia and rape charges and also scams."
Your reply - This is outrageous, no sane person would write that.

A women gets abused on the train by a yobbo and it is terrible yet a child gets sexually molested but no sane person would write about that? Why not? Are we not supposed to be against victimisation? Or not? A whole article is submitted based on the action of one person who has not been charged, no verifiable facts and indicator of little, yet children are sexually molested by non-whites so hush? The race is important than the child?

Why I wrote it. I knew if I were to get a sane response I would never need to write it. A victim is a victim and only a victim has rights. If we start selecting who are victims based on race then we are being racist.

The crimes that happened in Sydney were denied over and over. If they had been taken seriously then perhaps the Indians students would never had to relive the same set of circumstances by the same ethnic thugs. By the way plenty of proof, easy to locate. As a result a Middle Eastern specialised crime unit was established ... too late. If only people listened to the truth rather than what they wanted to hear.

We take sex crimes seriously, people are charged, no hysteria, or rarely. We treat racism like the Olympic Games, over analyse, ignore in some, accuse others but never ourselves, people make money trying to find it to keep themselves in work. It is like a mental illness. Google - Is Canada more racist than the US, or - Is the US more racist than Europe. It is sickness. The only answer is call a spade a spade. When everyone discovers that there are bad apples in every batch then, and only then, will people move on. Like sex attacks are treated. People accept some are dysfunctional, but not all, so why people keep trying to prove that is simply hate on their part.
Posted by TheMissus, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 3:00:47 PM
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The Missus

You can't seem to substantiate any of your claims. Do you have any links to any new stories backing up your claim about Indian students?? You have also smeared a rather large group of people with some very unsavoury remarks. And how do you know that the "ethnic" gangs identified at Harris Park are the same people as those who created disturbances at Cronulla prior to the 2005 riot? Where is your evidence?

Can you actually prove that Singapore is a police state? Have you ever lived there?? And what about the US, Canada and the UK? For the vast majority of people other than a very small group of extremists, multiculturalism is perfectly fine. None of these countries are police states. Though you could say that Nazi Germany, which was definitely not pro-multiculturalism, was a police state.

I would think that Tim's story is true because (a) he put his REAL NAME to the story and (b) his fiancee and other witnesses can verify his story. That is the crucial difference between his quite excellent article, and your somewhat wild and florid claims.
Posted by David Jennings, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 3:59:06 PM
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David Jennings, it is apologists like you which have given some of the curs we are supposed to embrace under multiculturalism, the encouragement they need to become the problem we now have.

Here's a fact.

My son was attacked by a group of 4 "lebs" yesterday afternoon, in broad daylight, as he walked home alone, from Hurstville railway station. Being well trained, he had taken one out, & had another loosing interest, when he was hit across the side of the head, with a lump of timber, probably a 4X2.

He was on the ground, & had taken a couple of kicks, when a couple of cars stopped, & 2 REAL ozies got out of them. Not liking these odds, the curs fled.

My son now has no feeling, taste, of smell on that side, & the doctors have said that will "probably" return in a few days, or months. Great hay!

The cops have said, "don't expect to hear from them" as the car they fled in was too far away for anyone to get the number. The number may not have helped, as they also said that the cars these ethnic gangs use, generally have false plates.

So David, until you you live close enough [say 10K] to one of the areas infested by this scum, to know what you're talking about, your pontificating is just so much hot air.

Phil West
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 6:16:56 PM
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