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Understanding Tiger Woods: finding the man behind the tiger : Comments

By Peter West, published 13/1/2010

Tiger Woods has given the gossip magazines heaps of material over the usually-dull Christmas period.

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Tiger Woods is a sinner like everyone of us. Hopefully he humbles himself, turns from his wickedness and finds the Only One who can forgive him. Going to a secular psychologist will result in him becoming the victim and quite likely his parents to blame.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 14 January 2010 10:13:12 AM
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No,he doesnt need any psychiatrist or God.All he needs is another hole

socratease
Posted by socratease, Thursday, 14 January 2010 5:00:53 PM
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Lol socratease! I agree with Jl Deland.

None of this would really matter if he was a single bloke out there amongst his adoring fans.

However, he sold himself to advertising firms as a solid family man.
Now it turns out he likes to play the field, so he is shown as a liar now, to his wife and family foremost, and then to the people who pay for his part in endorsing products.

Anticeptic <'Whether Woods was married or not, it appears he was not sexually satisfied within his relationship. What is one to do in such a situation? Is polygamy a possible solution? What if he'd been in a long-term defacto relationship instead of a formal marriage; would that reduce the severity of the female response?"

On the other hand Mr.'septic, we could also speculate that Tiger was less than a satisfactory lover and she was disappointed in him, leading to a reluctance to have sex very often?
Maybe he had to take on lots of lovers because he couldn't keep the interest of one at a time?
For you, the woman is always at fault.

Either way, he was obviously still having sex with his wife because she had only recently had a baby. Tiger was putting his wife and children in mortal danger of contracting life-threatening sexually transmitted diseases. Not a nice bloke.
Posted by suzeonline, Friday, 15 January 2010 1:12:07 AM
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JLDeland:"My values are pretty standard for many men and women across Western society I think."

They're perfectly in line with those of all the other middle-class females, quite true. OTOH, Woods isn't either middle-class or female, so my question remains: "why would he feel bound by those values?" If your hubby subscribes to those values that you espouse it's hardly very surprising, since he is at least middle-class, even if not female.

suzeonline:"we could also speculate that Tiger was less than a satisfactory lover and she was disappointed in him, leading to a reluctance to have sex very often?"

Who cares what the reason was that he was unsatisfied, the fact remains that he obviously was. I suspect that a great many men are just as dissatisfied with their partner's sex drive. It's called biology, hon, do try reading up a bit on it.

suzeonline:"For you, the woman is always at fault."

LOL. And for you, she never can be...
Posted by Antiseptic, Friday, 15 January 2010 5:19:19 AM
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Antiseptic: <"What if he'd been in a long-term defacto relationship instead of a formal marriage; would that reduce the severity of the female response?">

I don't know what female response you mean Antiseptic. Could you give some examples from somewhere.

Is Tiger Woods an icon to females or to males ? I thought his popularity seemed located more widely in a male following.

You also say, "Is it really so surprising that a powerful man like Woods should feel less than completely hemmed in by female middle-class values?"

I'm not even surprised when middle class men feel less than completely hemmed in by female middle-class values. Are you?

- and yet - are the values FEMALE middle class, or just middle class?
Posted by Pynchme, Friday, 15 January 2010 7:00:47 AM
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Well Antispetic, I think actually you are being more than a little insulting to a lot of people who aren't female and middle class and for that matter to those people the rich and powerful, when you think there is no reason that they would reject my 'Western' values (I actually suspect more culturally universal ones really) and not be bound to them. This is really about how you treat the other individuals you interact with, not about sexual morality. Treating people with respect and decency goes across sex, age lines, race, cultures etc.

Woods entered into a contract with his wife it seems to be monogomous. He may have entered into that contract in good faith and then found he couldn't keep his end of the bargain. At this point he should have alerted her to the situation and given her the chance to renegotiate the arrangement. At least then she could have said, 'if you refuse to use a condom with your other partners, you can use one with me', to protect herself.

So this isn't about male and female or class, it's about how you treat the rest of humanity. Obviously some people will cheat and lie their way through life even to people close to them and never suffer a moments angst. Doesn't mean we have to approve of them even if they can hit a ball straight on the sport's field, or perform brilliant surgery or be great at business.

I think you try and case feminist ball's you think are being thrown (now that's a interesting image) when it's not a feminist or for that matter 'middle class' view at all.
Posted by JL Deland, Friday, 15 January 2010 8:17:08 AM
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