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Reparation day : Comments

By Kellie Tranter, published 16/12/2009

Copenhagen: Western countries must realise that you cannot negotiate survival.

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I have to agree with Yabby, Leigh and Atman here: Corrupt regimes do not benefit from aid. It often makes it worse for the actual poor as it props up the powerful who work against the weak and poor.
Certain cultures have grown rich because they work better. Rewarding the ineffective cultures with cargo is silly.
Free education can be provided, all else must be earned for a nation to be sustainable. What is a "nation" if it is totally dependent on others and merely used as vote in international politics? Do we really want puppet states to get funding? Depends on who's puppet I guess!
Posted by Ozandy, Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:58:37 AM
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I really hope this "liberal" guilt trip propaganda is not felt by a majority of Australians. You have a wonderful country, and a vibrant, creative and pioneering people. Don't throw that away by wallowing in guilt about supposedly "not giving enough" of your money to corrupt oligarchies and dictatorships. We have enough of "liberal" guilt here in North America. Australians do not need to add to it. Much of the "Third World" is rich in natural resources. Yet, much of it has remained poor . . . even after independence from colonial rule . . . precisely BECAUSE of their corruption and backward cultural attitudes. The Left routinely places EXCLUSIVE blame for such poverty on western "capitalist" corporations . . . and western military intervention. Yet, it has often been "Socialist" Third World regimes themselves which have INVITED western companies in . . . because those regimes did not originally have the competence and technical expertise to run an ice-cream truck . . . let alone an entire economy. Then, whether it was a wise decision or not, western military intervention has frequently been triggered by the barbaric behavior of those regimes themselves. That is not to excuse whatever opportunism western governments, especially the United States, have demonstrated in their own foreign policy. However, if it had not been for western aid, western-built schools, western-created medicine and western-created technology, many of these dysfunctional Third World excuses for "nations" would still be living in a Medieval-Era world of petty tribal wars, total illiteracy, and mindless superstition. Some of them still do . . . even WITH massive amounts of western money and technology thrown at them. Surely I cannot be the only one who thinks it strange that numerous delegates at the Copenhagen Conference, who represented authoritarian and dictatorial regimes, were complaining about "not enough democracy" in the Conference's processes. These regimes, and others, have demanded 100 Billion Dollars a year from developed countries for protection against the alleged consequences of "man-made" global warming. What possible guarantee do we have that they will actually use such funds FOR that purpose?
Posted by sonofeire, Monday, 21 December 2009 7:20:57 PM
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Ah, for the good old days when women were engaged in charitable activities like knitting jumpers for the poor.
Nowadays they become highly paid charitable activists who demand that the taxes sequestered from their fellow countrymen be given to whomsoever they see fit for whatever reason you may not ask.
Any conditions on any such handouts, such as requiring specific details as to what purpose the funds will be put, are an affront to the dignity of the recipients and proof positive of the sneakiness and greed of the exploiter.
Imagine asking someone to what purpose they intend putting the jumper you've just knit for them out of the kindness of your heart!
Welcome to the whacko world of crypto-socialist, career reparations brokers.
Hey, but if it assuages their own personal guilt for being so rich and not giving as much to charity as they know in their hearts they could afford.
Imagine not having to personally give but being richly rewarded for organising the collective giving by everyone else!
And then calling that your personal giving!
All the sacrifices you made just to help the wretched of the earth in their never-ending struggle against the rapacious and malevolent West.
Step aside Mother Teresa.
Posted by HermanYutic, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 8:54:39 AM
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