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Normalising the crime of the century : Comments

By John Pilger, published 17/12/2009

UK's inquiry into the invasion of Iraq aims to normalise an epic crime by providing enough of a theatre of guilt to satisfy the media.

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If there is any moral authority left in Western governments, Bush, Blair and Howard must be brought to justice charged with crimes against humanity.

They should be hanged if found guilty.
Posted by Philip Tang, Thursday, 17 December 2009 10:56:59 AM
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Philip Tang

The hanging bit is going too far. There was enough doubt long before the event for the peoples of America, Britain and Australia to say no. Bush, Blair and Howard where all put into their positions of authority by the peoples of their respective countries. Those who did not say 'No' must accept their portion of the blame.
It is the people who the put leaders in and it is time the people demanded truth rather than rhetoric.
Now that the 'Howard gang' is trying for a comeback I hope the People of Australia have learnt something and reject a return to the politics of fear.
As far as 'normalizing' an epic crime. I fear John Pilger is right. It happens everytime it becomes impossible to keep the lid on unsavioury events
Posted by Daviy, Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:28:22 PM
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Pilger is a rabid left wing loon. For years he's taken delight in dumping on the society that continues to flatter him.

It constantly amazes me that the intellectual left in the West has somehow found itself the voice of defending dictators, mass murderers and the Islamic fascist right.

The only real dyed in the wool offender of human rights was hanged. By his own people.
Posted by Street, Thursday, 17 December 2009 2:22:58 PM
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I guess if there is no answer to an argument get into the name calling. 'Pilger the rabid left wing loon' versus 'Islamic fascist right.' Sounds like a bad horror movie.

How easily you forget that Hussein was America's 'Man in the Middle East' until he decided to go his own way. It was America that installed him as dictator and supported his murderous ways. And that Iran is what it is today because the CIA overthrow a moderate democratic government to re-install the Shah as supreme dictator. When the Shah was kicked out again we got the Ayatollahs.

Also that Iraq did not exist until it was cobbled together after the Great War so that Britain could have all its little oil interests in one neat package. Whether or not the various peoples in the area ever wanted to be in one package never came into it.
But of course we can always avoid uncomfortable facts by name calling and blind dogma
Posted by Daviy, Thursday, 17 December 2009 5:18:06 PM
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Street,

The Pilgers of this world are the ones who see through the camouflage draped so splendidly over the warmongering intinentions of powerful nations with vested interests.

The capture and subsequent dispatch of Saddam Hussein was merely a necessary sideshow. Did it ever occur to you to ask why it was perfectly feasible for western powers to turf the dictator out of Iraq, yet no power is at all interested in removing an equally despotic dictator like Robert Mugabe - Zimbabwe is simply not worth the trouble. Iraq and Afghanistan, on the other hand, possess respectively both a plentiful access to oil and a strategic geographical foothold in an all important region.

Why do you think advanced western countries with their inherent requirement to accessible oil reserves have been instrumental in formulating governments and drawing up borders in the region since the inception of the modern industrial state?
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 17 December 2009 5:33:28 PM
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Poirot,
on one hand you describe the west as a manipulator yet on the other you describe it as advanced. What is so "advanced" in being a manipulator ?
I think with the benefit of hindsight we can safely describe today's western mentality as backward rather than advanced.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 17 December 2009 7:03:08 PM
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individual,

I used the term advanced to mean modern industrially developed nations.

However, I agree with you that the so-called "advanced" nations of this world seem to be increasingly devoid of basic wisdom and respect for the environment. As such, due to their greed and willful ignorance, they could be viewed as backwards.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 17 December 2009 7:25:57 PM
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Bin Laden is said to have died on the 13 dec 2001. see http://www.veteranstoday.com Search the article BIN LADEN LONG DEAD.
The US Govt wanted to keep him alive for their war mongering purposes.We saw bad visual imitations and voice overs on the media but no one took them to task.

The USA has forces 13 times bigger than it's nearest rival,yet Obama continues to increase the military budget even when the country is broke.

This is not about left V's right ,it is about knowing the truth.I see more than the potential for serious wars in the near future instigated by the USA.We must all become aware and stop them.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 18 December 2009 6:14:06 AM
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It's rather more complicated than that Daviy- as the people of Australia, the USA and UK have no actual right to say "no" at all to war- at most, we could have waited a couple of extra months/years after we are signed up to the conflict till the next election, and vote in a potentially much worse government because they might possibly sort-of pull us out.
Pilger's rather outlines two extremely frightening aspects of our governance:
1- that the ONLY thing needed to send Australia to war is a motive in a handful of politicians, the necessity of will of the people meaning zilch.
2- that they cannot be held to account in a remotely effective manner.
Posted by King Hazza, Friday, 18 December 2009 7:16:53 AM
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