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Australia border policy; tribal or human : Comments

By Lyndon Storey, published 17/12/2009

We need to start to move beyond the tribalism of nation states in which we currently live.

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This is Online Opinion's reserved spot for the daily nonsense article and this one does not disappoint.

Yeah,sure,Lyndon,Australia should open the borders and let in all comers.We have already exceeded our sustainable population by about 10 million and thanks to the the myopic ideology of KRudd&Co we are continuing and enhancing the insane immigration policies of Howard&Co.

How do you think this,alone, is going to end,Lyndon?

I can tell you.It will end in a crash,and,given the preponderance of fools like you in the population,probably a burn as well.
Posted by Manorina, Thursday, 17 December 2009 9:12:32 AM
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Lyndon has not suggested that we open our borders and let all comers in. Lyndon has suggested getting rid of the nation state system. As a first move there could be a union of the democracies. I think none of those who wish to enter Australia flees from a democracy. All that would result immediately would be a freer flow of people between the democracies.

I wish I had written the article. it makes good sense. I see no reason why Australia and New Zealand should be separate political entities. We could push for a union of our two countries and include other countries as soon as there is enough common ground for union.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 17 December 2009 9:46:13 AM
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Lets take this a step further. Lyndon can open his front door and his bank account to all comers. He can hand over the food on his table too. When will he stop? When he has starved to death? Just asking.
He should also have noted the EU has the most corrupt and bloated bureaucracy in history, complimented by obscene numbers of politicians who are paid large amounts of money but with every tax benefit ever thought of. The point is they keep on putting up taxes but never want to pay any themselves.
No Lyndon you really need to get out more and mix with people.
Posted by JBowyer, Thursday, 17 December 2009 10:06:15 AM
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Imagining some Australians keeping other Australians out of a certain area of Australia, and trying to link that imagining with border protection, comes from a very strange mind.

‘Fellow human beings’ are not fellow Australians living in their own country. Non-Australian human beings are foreigners, aliens who have no business trying to get into Australia uninvited; just as Australians have no business trying to bet into other countries by ignoring the legalities.

And, in what way does this ranter think “… Australia pursues its current border control policy”?

There has been no border control policy since the Rudd Government got in. They openly invite illegals to come here – disbanding the Pacific Solution and advertising that they intend to expand the Christmas Island facility to house more of them when they turn up.

If Lyndon Storey cannot answer his own question: “Why is it alright to treat our fellow human beings this way, when we would never do the same to our fellow Australians?” then he needs a lot of help.

Lyndon Storey, with his open borders, is a raving anarchist.

‘Freedom of movement’, and ‘Human Union’, indeed! There has never been a more disgusting and idiotic contribution to OLO than this.
Posted by Leigh, Thursday, 17 December 2009 10:39:24 AM
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Imagine if the occupant of an Australian household such as Lyndon's decided to fix locks to his doors to stop other Australians entering.
Imagine also that Lyndon called the police when people attempted to get into his house without his permission.
Imagine Lyndon allowing entry to some deemed "friends" or "relatives" but others deemed “trespassers” were denounced as thieves.

Outrage and condemnation would surely pour forth from the rest of OLO readers.
Lyndon would inevitably be accused of putting himself ahead of his fellow Australians.
There would be cries of how dare he treat his fellow Australians this way, especially those who are suffering and struggling to build a better life for their families.
Lyndon would be accused of denying his fellow Australians a fair go.

Such terrible behaviour seems impossible to us, but this is how Lyndon's fellow human beings are being treated as Lyndon pursues his lock-the-doors policy.

Yes, Lyndon locks less-advantaged people out of his car too!

Why is it alright to treat other fellow human beings this way, when Lyndon would never do the same to his friends and relatives?

Why do people deserve fewer rights than Lyndon just because of who they are not?

Why is Lyndon more deserving of a fair go than other Australians?

The answer to all of these questions is that all human beings deserve to be treated with basic dignity, and this basic dignity includes the right of entry into Lyndon's house and car.

But if what Lyndon is doing is not alright, what should Lyndon do?

Lyndon needs to look beyond the individualism of private property and recognise that he is no more entitled to his property than anybody else.
Lyndon needs to throw open the doors to his house, his car, his bank account and let those more needy than himself partake in what he has greedily accrued to himself.

When Lyndon has done this, everybody else will follow his example, resulting in everlasting peace and prosperity on earth.

Or is Lyndon merely suffering from look at how compassionate I am derangement syndrome?
Posted by HermanYutic, Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:23:46 AM
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Twit.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:16:07 PM
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