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Man up - save our children : Comments

By Warwick Marsh, published 10/11/2009

Australia needs men who will challenge the corporate pedophiles and p*rn kings who put profit before people.

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Pynchme "Have you any proof that women receive that much "profit"(by divorce)? The only stats I have ever seen related to after divorce financial status shows that women and children live in relative poverty; while the male goes forward with his career etc."

The truth is that Women and men both suffer about equally financially by divorce. You are refering to the often quoted (but fraudulant and discredited "research" by sociologist Lenore Weitzman who said "Women and children suffer a 73 percent decline in their standard of living in the first year after divorce. Men, on the other hand, had a 42 percent increase." This is a hugely quoted statistic, cited everywhere. Three hundred forty-eight social science articles, 250 law review articles, 24 appeals court cases. That’s a famous statistic. And it is lies, pure academic misconduct!

The truth is
1:Weitzman admitted it was a "mistake", but it did take her more than 10 years to admit the mistake. the figures were reversed.
2: Post divorce, men and women come out almost exactly equally in terms of wealth and standard of living.

DIANE O’CONNELL and SANFORD BRAVER have written this book about what they say are myths about divorced dads. Myths like the famous Weitzman statistic about men’s living standards increasing while women’s declined 73 percent.

Sources:
1: http://www.hisside.com/2_29_04.htm
2: http://www.amazon.com/Divorced-Dads-Sanford-Braver/dp/087477862X
3: "Deadbeat Dad Image A Myth, Study Finds" May 5, 1999 - The New York Times Quoted on http://deltabravo.net/custody/baddadmyth2.php

Pynchme "Also, are you saying that you believe that women have a plan to get married and have children just to screw some bloke over ?" No, but when the going gets tough, or just boring in a marrig, as it nearly always does, she has no incentive to work at making the relationaship work... she can throw him out and keep everything. Why work for a compromise
Posted by partTimeParent, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 9:48:26 PM
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RObert,
"Dave based on what you have described here I'm assuming that you were seperated at the time and that DOC's treated it as a child protection case regardless of how valid that was"

No, this was not the case my wife and now former partner separated at in 1995 and my wife signed custody of our son over to me and I worked the hours out so that my wife had 49% of time with our son and I had 51% so as to meet the criteria of the sole Parent(major carer)
Don't get me wrong until my wife was called back to work early she showed all the instincts and attributes of a good mother and it seemed to have settled her where she was being a good wife but things that I can't say here, prevailed and led to a separation
We tried rebuilding the marriage in 1996 for our son to have both parents in the same house as that is what he wanted
This is why I say to contact direct because I am not great at writing and can't seem to get the whole story out
All privacy will be adhered to and I will not (what's the word?) harass anyone by that contact it is only so I can tell the whole story

Quotes
"Any Nation that does not care for and protect ALL its children does not deserve to be called a Nation" Nelson Mandela

"I HAVE A DREAM" Martin Luther-King
Thanks for your time
From Dave
Posted by dwg, Thursday, 19 November 2009 7:28:12 AM
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I know that many of the contributors on OLO get hung-up about relevant statistics and credible research links, but common sense alone proves that the widespread use of pornography in our society is indefensible.
1. It exploits vulnerable women whilst making the producers rich, thus perpetuating the cycle (read about Linda Lovelace’s sad life)
2. It is often misogynistic, fuelling already unbalanced views of women
3. Like any addictive behaviour, pornography starts at a low level and due to the law of diminishing returns, greater and more extreme thrills are required to achieve the same stimulation. This ends in shame and guilt for the user, not joy. It is a false god, promising control yet delivering slavery.
4. It destroys the intimacy between husband and wife. It never enhances it.
5. Boys whose parents watch pornography will inevitably be exposed to it and probably be caught up in it themselves.
6. Children exposed to pornography lose their innocence. There is a world of difference in playing doctors & nurses and performing fellatio. The act of love is a sacred thing, done privately for a reason. How many of us would like to be viewed in public making love to our beloved?
7. The acceptance or mere tolerance of pornography now will ensure that in the near future it will be on our TV sets. History is a testament to our plummeting moral values. What is X-rated now, will soon be R, then MA and so on.
8. If pornography is such a great thing, why is it viewed in such secrecy and surrounded by shame? We know it is wrong, but we are sucked in by it.
Whatever affects us affects our kids. They look to us as role models, for protection.
As Warwick said, let’s "man up" and find alternative solutions to our sexual issues. Pornography is NOT the answer, it only causes more problems.
Posted by MartinsS, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 7:45:30 AM
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