This is CJ Morgan parroting his refugee advocates catechism:

“India is not a signatory to the UN Convention, so Sri Lankan Tamil refugees have NO HOPE of being granted asylum there.”

This is what is happening in the real world :

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=63553
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article28262.ece

Note
1) There are Tamil “refugees” currently in India
2) India is considering granting them residency

To Hasbeeb
Incidentally , Tamil Nadu means “Land of the Tamils"!

"Ludwig - Woof woof. Would you like a Schmacko?"

Aaaah hahahaha. That's funny CJ (:>)

Well....when you've got no meaningful response, why not try a bit of humour!

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'Australia will send police and high-tech gear into several Asian hotspots in a frantic bid to stem the flow of asylum seekers.' Daily Telegraph 16 Oct.

So our illustrious government is now getting very concerned indeed about the escalation in asylum-seeking / people-smuggling. It looks like a huge tax-payer-funded effort is being launched in order to reduce it.....while Rudd's reduced border-protection policy pull factor remains in place!

"Rudd is a dud"

ShazBaz001, I think he is much worse than a dud.

Has Rudd lied?

Has he presented his request to the Indonesian President to stop the boat loaded with 256 Tamils been presentedas an attempt for him to get tough on illegal entry into Australia by boat?

I asked the question: Why couldn't it have ignored the Indo Navy and just sailed on?
All reports indicate that boat had broken down and was drifting in Indonesian waters.

So why did an Australian PM intervene on behalf of a group of people who were not Australians and who were on a boat drifting aimlessly around in Indonesian waters?

To answer; because their prefered destination was Australia, is a stupidity.

I suspect Rudd intervened on humanitarian grounds and asked the Indo's to save them ... they had no hope of reaching Australia and in all likelihood would have perished at sea.

He shouldn't have had to intervene. He had no right to involve Australia in an Indonesian matter.

Ethically he should have said his aim was humanitarian and he should not have attempted to present his humanitarianism as toughness.

To those who are constantly critical of people who still support the use of John Howards very effective temp protect visa's would you please stop the name callin, abuse and living in the past. Spend your time positively and present an alternative that will stop this very dangerous illegal traffic. I'll listen to any alternative and have an open discussion of your alternative. Most reasonable people will. By constantly carping and critising you simply cause the vast majority of people to think Howard's way worked and no alternative is possible.

ie put up or ... sit down and be quiet.

This partly why this debate drives me nuts

" would love to see a country run by all of you pathetic bleeding hearts who would allow anyone with a sob story free access to everything Australia had to offer" Well in some we ARE! And that is a good thing.

This too " If these latest batches of refugees are from Afghanistan,how on earth is any Aust Govt official going to detect who is talibanised and/or, a drug runner, given the tribal nature of the culture they are coming from" add that to the so called 15K they pay to get here and you get a sense of the ridiculous when it comes to protestations about a trickle of outsiders - why would a drug runner float over here - if you have 15K to slip to some people smuggler buy a fake passport or three and fly in like the vast majority of would be refugees - with change you could buy a spend a week or so at Crown casino - where the real crooks are while you look for work!

We have had it so good for so long we have become intellectually lazy and intolerant - well I welcome my swarthy fecund brothers and sisters - like all migrant groups I pray they inject more colour to the social fabric like the italians the greeks the vietnamese the sudanese the laotians the cambodians the indians.......god grief I am tired of the alarmists

Nice one sneekeepete my sentiments exactly. This is a country of immigrants and there is more than enough for us to share. This whole debate is couched in racism anyway. There would be no outcry if it was ocean liners full of kiwis or poms coming here. You only have to look at the people espousing "tough" solutions to see the sort of bigoted, ignorant racism I am talking about.

I still want to know:

1.Why India,Malaysia an Indonesia have NOT signed the UN Convention on refugees but we have.

2.Why members of the Organisation of Islamic Countries the infamous OIC, dont look after their own kind and grant asylum to Muslim refugees, irrespective of the UN Convention.

3. Why we get played for sucker when the same OIC tried to strictly limit our Freedom of speach at those appalling Durban 1 and Durban 2 conferences..but we are expected to look after their refugees.