LOL Rusty

I am indebted to you for introducing me to "Project Steve".

Steven (Steve) Meyer

CJ Morgan wrote:

"I've thought for quite some time now that the God described in the Christian Bible is a Righteous Tool."

If God exists I suggest that He? She? It? They? most likely resembles "God the Utterly Indifferent" as depicted in Kurt Vonnegut Jnr's marvellous SF story The Sirens of Titan.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sirens_of_Titan

Another possible "God model" is God the divine comedian.

Who but a divine comedian could create a scientifically advanced species that continues to believe that the bible and / or koran is a message from Him? Her? It? They? You'd think that if God dictated a message to humanity He? She? It? They? could at least get the basic facts about cosmology, geology, physiology, evolution and astronomy right.

Actually there is support on youtube for the theory that God is Divine Comedian. See the WONDERFUL Mr. Deity videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Clm6nlWxzc

david f,
>>God created man ... ; male and female created he them.
In the above God created man and woman simultaneously<<
When I say Shakespeare wrote tragedies, Hamlet and Macbeth wrote he, I am not saying he wrote them simultaneously.

>>they will abandon the monotheistic religions and probably invent new forms of nonsense<<
How right you are here! Yesterday I watched on YouTube the six continuations of Richard Dawkins’ introduction of his God Delusion book at UC Berkeley, and although I would not necessarily call nonsense what he believes now (instead of what he abandoned), his performance reminded me very much of many evangelical preachers bringing their faithful into frenzy, although instead of “speaking in tongues” (glossolalia), his congregation was “speaking in laughters” (I do not know what you would call this in Latin), probably with the same effect on their psychological well-being.

Seriously though, I wish I had never watched this, my esteem of Dawkins as a matter-of-fact evolutionary biologist has unnecessarily suffered.

Dear Oliver,
Excellent question and one I wish I had an answer to myself.
I know that it will be one of the first things I'll be asking Him, when my time comes.

Given what I know of God from my understanding of the Scriptures (writings inspired by God Himself) and from my own personal revelations, I am convinced that God is not capricious or flawed in His thinking or planning. This is not a provable fact, merely my personal belief.

In line with that, I see far less difficulties in understanding the world order with both a good and a bad Power, rather than a single "vexatious, two-faced, psychopathic" being. That just doesn't make sense.

Christianity does not espouse Dualism (two equal and opposite forces) but the perceived tension in forces could be explained by a self-imposed (and not completely understood) restraint of God's omnipotent power. (See satan's aforementioned legal right over the world and its inhabitants).

As would be expected of God, His ways are not entirely explicable to lesser beings such as us. Could we be in awe of a God/Deity that we could entirely comprehend? Would we worship a Being that was merely a smarter version of ourselves? I don't think so.

God is God and some things we will never fully understand. But that doesn't mean we can't keep trying!

P.S. Grim. How is it bullying if the Jews are the ones being oppressed? Pure & simple self-defence.

there isnt anything to reply..but it seems were allgiving our idea of god...and rightfully none can know for sure,...but i will try,simply to put as i believe

the ab-origonals talk of the dreaming...at one time all the lands were one land...gobdwana[or something like that....well the timming of the first earth expansion...[see expanding earth theory]...was the time adam/eve were driven from eden

eden lies under the southern pole...driving out was done via pole shift...next one due 25 dec2012...when the next crack/expantion occures...the ab-origonals saw the last one...it looked like a fish..swinning through the earth...as the earth slowly expaned...like an earth sumami..etc

but i was to speak of god...he lives in our heart[is the life force..that science calls reflex.auto reponse/nature...but why am i casting pearl before swine

god is all loving...full stop
he dosnt do the vile...thats freewill...how xtianity was told to live with the living good...is by love of neighbour,...any not of love/not good...is not of god..

there is a clue there for you athiests...find that not good..then prove it were god that done it...you got no rreason to missjudge god who loves us all so intmatly...know its not god that punishes us for anything...we all get grace...from god

but the thing is everyone being forgiven...some of the forgiven..feel real peeved certain tyopes are forgiven their foul deeds

so god created a special place for everyone...you recall jesuis said i go to buoild your room in the fathers house...thats about realms...see every passion has its own room...everyone there has equal passions...its our passions that form the room real...all in the fathers house

im interested in the true sciences,,because gods house is in the egsact shape of human...and thus the realms/rooms...equate to the body...meaning the darker realms are within

but its easier to decry an amasing goodness god]..none can concieve

Can anyone explain how the same god went from being a vindictive psychopathic bully in the old testament to a touchy-feely-love-youse-all kind of guy in the new testament? Was he overwhelmed by the fact he had just allowed his son to be killed in a truly horrific and unnecessary manner, when as an omnipotent being all he had to do was make us think he was a good guy without hurting a fly? Was he just kidding in the OT - or is he just kidding in the NT? Why does sacrificing his son do anything other than evoke revulsion? Child killers are reviled today, so why not god?

Just where does satan fit in? Is he a naughty angel (as in islam)? Something else? Does satan have free will?