Dear oh dear CJ. You were doing reasonably well there for a bit. But you had to go and make a laughing stock of yourself with:

"Mind you, given that you hail from Townsville, it wouldn't be all that surprising if you're one of those closet racists..."

Well.... you are good at (inadvertent) humour!

Silly boy. There was just a touch of almost adult comment, then you slipped straight back into your normal kindergarten level diatribe.

No I don't think you have actually ever called me racist. You've called me all manner of other things, some of which you know are blatantly untrue and defamatory, including 'misanthrope'.

So you think that it is fair and reasonable to hate my guts because you associate me with some posters that you think are racist eh, even though I've never agreed with any obviously racist commentary?

Isn't that 'logic' just a tad wonky?

It has become patently obvious that you hate my guts simply because I disagree with you, over the asylum seeker issue in particular, and because I have dared to push the point regarding the hard questions, because you couldn't answer them and kept skipping around them!

" 'King Billy Cokebottle' lives in Townsville"

Really? That's news to me. I've heard of him, from years ago. I thought he hailed from WA. Haven't heard anything about him for a long time.

CJ, the attempt at strawman arguments simply is not working for
you, I'm afraid. So quit the attempt at diversionary tactics.

The fact that you are intolerant, we know from your actions on
OLO. Its all very well pontificating, but our actions matter
and we know the truth about you now, so the rest is hot air.

You seemingly don't have a sense of humour either.

If you had not wanted to say g'day to Ludwig, you could have said
it in a polite way, not invent all this crap about "stalking"
and such nonsense. For you to rush to that kind of hysteria,
I can only assume that you have something to hide.

Ludwig, I don't "hate your guts", nor any other part of you for that matter. If I feel any emotion towards you, it's probably more pity than anything else, because I think you're mentally unbalanced at the moment. That's why I've suggested you seek help.

I also think you're misanthropic, because you show no evidence of compassion towards people less fortunate than yourself, nor indeed of common social mores. Such misanthropy is frequently displayed by extreme green nutters, particularly those who live alone and spend the bulk of their time immersed in the minutiae of such activities as field botany. There's nothing defamatory about any of that - rather, it's simply my considered opinion.

Yabby - what strawman argument? I genuinely think that Ludwig is mentally unbalanced, and that's why I interpreted his inappropriate behaviour the way that I did. He's free to be as deranged as he likes, as far as I'm concerned - but that doesn't mean that I (nor anyone else) am obliged to have him interrupt my holiday with my kids, particularly given the acrimonious nature of our online exchanges at the time, not to mention his expressed antipathy towards children.

I think that you're peeved because I've clearly demonstrated your closet racism in this thread. Your accusation that I'm intolerant is laughable, and is clearly motivated by some warped desire to get your own back.

Unlike you socially maladjusted obsessives, I've got nothing to hide. That's one of the reasons I post under my real name while you hide behind anonymity. That, as much as anything, is why I regard you both with piteous contempt.

It's so easy for people who are not the targets of racism to snort things like, "Pfft there is NO racism" or to insist that the targets have some sort of defective sense of humour.

Although some Aboriginal people might have learned to just endure the *innocent* jocularity of racists - others are not going to just take it without comment.

For example, Jirra Lulla Harvey:

<"In the 121 years between Henry Melville’s first Australian minstrel and Chauvel’s Jedda there have been countless white actors who have played Aboriginal characters by smearing Blackface across their skin and misrepresenting our languages, songs, dances and traditions.

There is a history of Blackface in Australia. It is a hurtful and degrading history that denied our right to self representation and helped to create the racial stereotypes that plague our nation today.

I am Australian, I like a good laugh. I am Aboriginal and carry the scars of this history. To revive Blackface is not funny.">

http://eurasian-sensation.blogspot.com/2009/10/aboriginal-perspective-on-blackface.html

(Good on you CJ)

"Ludwig, I don't 'hate your guts' ..."

Really! Well that IS news to me Ceej. Wow, my mind boggles: how do you treat people that you really do hate then?? ?? ??

That extraordinary crapulous about stalking, repeated a whole bunch of times, that you spouted as a result of me extending a friendly invitation to come and meet me in the real world was really something to behold. It has got to be the whackiest stuff I've ever encountered on this forum. If that wasn't 'hate my guts' stuff, then what is?

Keep trying to convince yourself that I'm misanthropic. If someone who wants this country to greatly improve its input into global refugee issues, to double our refugee intake and to stop the terribly emotive, dangerous and haphazard people-smuggling route into Australian waters falls within your definition of misanthropic, then...what can I say....you are just extremely weird!

I suggest that you stop deluding yourself and just admit that I'm one of the least misanthropic contributors to this forum and that you...in your hatred of me...have used this term (and many others), over and over again, in order to belittle and slander me.

Have a nice day.

Whatever, Russell. Get help - and take some transcripts of your posts with you to show your counsellor.

I'm going fishing for a few days. If you post anything on topic I'll respond when I get back.