CJ was prattling on about social etiquette.

Ahhhh hahahahaha!!

That's still very amusing several days later!!

Yabby, I don't know how you can think that a word that Morgan writes is worth repsonding to.

I mean, how can someone who is so intolerant of those who don't share his views, and so willing to attack the person instead of the debating the subject, possibly have an inkling of credence when it comes to debating matters of racism or any other form of intolerance?

"Oh heavens. There was no racism."

Right on TheMissus.

It is very telling actually that the likes of Morgan find something like this skit objectionable and racist. Given this, it is no wonder that they are so ready to brand those who desire strong border-control and an end to onshore sylum-seeking, a reduction in immigration and the like, as racist.

It seems to me that people who are intolerant of humour of the sort of the subject of this thread are much more intolerant than those who they brand as racist.

It's quite telling that the only comment that Ludwig's made in 3 days - while we've had several new articles and innumerable comments in this forum about asylum seekers - is the above snark directed at me.

Like I've said, Hell hath no fury like a Ludwig scorned.

Get help, Russell.

Ludwig

The definition of racism is to offend a white man.

I recall the banning of Christmas issue due to Muslim sensibilities. This caused an outcry and deepened resentment toward Muslims. Except it was never the muslims that were offended. It was the white man who must speak on their behalf because they are too stupid to speak for themselves apparently. I find them quite able to myself, many far better than those self appointed spokespeople. So Christmas offended the white man but this created division between mainstream and muslims.

This repeats all through history. the messengers of malice create the problem then change sides when it starts to be come apparent they were caught out. They are members of the Registered Society of Bullies and fit the bully profile very well indeed. Look at perfect I am boss they yell while treading on their co-workers head.

I blame these spokepersons for the division in society, and politicians for exploiting it, rather than exposing it. Universities for breeding it instead of becoming enlightened on the subject. You will never get a sorry though.

Actually I do know why Yabby is bothering with you CJ. It is because your arguments are so easy to dismantle, and it is fun to watch you get flustered and start playing the man instead of the ball when your loopy excuse for logic is shown to be fundamentally flawed.

Incidentally it is so nice that you to have bothered to check my user index to see whether I'd posted in the last three days. I'm touched (:>)

I also note that you have made no attempt to address the subject-relevant comments in my last post.

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"The definition of racism is to offend a white man"

TheMissus, one of the definitions is, but I reckon there are many definitions for many different people.

The trouble is, racism is one of those extremely vague and ill-defined terms that means very different things to different people.

For instance, for CJ Morgan to brand people as racist because they want to see an end to the haphazard arrivals of onshore asylum seekers, even though they have made it abundantly clear that they want to improve and increase Australia's refugee program, is just completely outside of my definition, to the extent that I can't imagine how he could think that way. But he and several others do... and copiously express it.

Of course the other possibility is that he and his ilk just use the racist slur in a totally disingenuous manner in order to attack those with whom they disagree. Indeed, this has been one of the main downsides of the whole racism debate.

The slur of racism has had a huge consequence, most notably in the population stabilisation debate, where it effectively killed off debate for a couple of decades. This will be shown to be one of the gravest miscarriages of commonsense, in the near future when our population outgrows our ability to comfortably support it, and our social and economic structure comes tumbling down.

Those who use the word 'racist' and other similar terms in a very loose sense have got a lot to answer for.

Ludwig, the CJ case is actually quite an interesting case, for
here we have a man who claims to love fellow human beings, who
broke into cold sweats of hysteria, when you mentioned that you
could say g'day. Something is fishy lol. I would guess that
perhaps CJ has something to hide, which he does not want other
OLO posters to know about, that was the reason for the panic.
But IMHO he tried to cover it up, by trying to make you look
bad. As an impartial observer, I was quite shocked.

As to CJ's asylum seeker stance, its the same stuff he parrots
over and over. When the rationality is challenged, he has
no answers, other then name calling.

Fact is that none of the posters on OLO that I can think of,
have suggested that no refugees come to Australia. Many have
agreed that the number could be increased.

What most Australians seem to want is an orderly system, where
we agree on a set number, then have them screened before they
turn up here.

Now if there had been problems in Indonesia or NZ and people
sailed here as a first point of call, people might be understanding,
but your average Joe is no fool and when they see all this country
hopping, etc, they know that they are being hoodwinked and frankly
it pisses them off, which is quite understandable.

CJs mob are in fact the problem, not the solution. For they are
giving people hope of a life in Australia, so they risk their
lives and money. If we took no boats, they would not bother.
Nobody is going to risk that kind of money, if there is nil
chance of success.

How odd it is that, with several active threads current on OLO about asylum seekers, you twats choose to post snarky comments at me on this unrelated thread instead of participating in proper discussions about the topic that most divides us. Could it be that it's not just me arguing for compassion and decency in those discussions?

Ludwig, you don't seem to know what racism is - further, I don't think I've ever said you're racist. Rather, I've said I think you're misanthropic. My contempt for you derives from your propensity to get into bed with any foul racist or xenophobic bigot who supports your crusade to prevent asylum seekers reaching Australia by boat, with never the slightest criticism of the often blatantly bigoted shite that they post here.

Mind you, given that you hail from Townsville, it wouldn't be all that surprising if you're one of those closet racists like Yabby, who can't see the overt bigotry in the community in which you live. "King Billy Cokebottle" lives in Townsville and is apparently still quite popular among the North's underbelly. Are you a fan?

Yabby - give up on trying to paint me as intolerant. You don't know what tolerance means. In this case, I'm very happy that the mentally ill are able to live in the community and are free to express whatever loopy ideas they wish. That doesn't mean that we need to welcome them into our family holidays.

Tolerance doesn't mean liking people or wanting to spend time with them. It means acknowledging their right to be as they are - which is apparently a big ask for some.