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The lying game: how we are being groomed for another war : Comments

By John Pilger, published 5/10/2009

If any country in the world has been handed urgent cause to develop a nuclear 'deterrence' it is Iran.

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poppyseed


Palestine.
Posted by keith, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 5:30:05 PM
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poppyseed

a nuclear armed Iran without intercontinental missiles would see a balance of power in the mid east and would force Israel to negotiate a just peace with the Palestinians. Just like they were forced by the US to sue for a peace and incorruptable borders with Egypt and Jordan.

Iran without the capacity to deliver Nuclear weapons to the US, Russia, China, France, and the UK threatens only the other mid-eastern nuclear power.

Therefore all the crap about a Iranian threat to the world is stupidity and mere Israeli propaganda.
Posted by keith, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 5:38:25 PM
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There's a few things I'd like to remind people of.

Firstly - the world was shocked by images from Iran, of homosexuals being publicly hanged from cranes. The bodies were left there for a long long time.

This is not mere propaganda. This was the will of the Ayatollahs.

So, when Pilger tells me these people have signed on to nuclear-non proliferation treaties, I say, so what? It's only a significant point if they take the treaty seriously and I sincerely doubt they do.

So when the US and the world tries to prevent these disgusting people from getting nukes, I support them. I wouldn't support any kind of forced regime change, but I sincerely hope the Iranians someday establish a new government on their own.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 9:13:17 PM
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If Pilger is not trustworthy and just writing stuff that wins adulation from the paranoid left then why does nobody seem to attack him on his facts?

They may be presented selectively but nevertheless they seem to be correct.

You may not want to hear what he has to say but you can't dismiss him on that basis alone.
Posted by rache, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 10:57:28 PM
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There seems to be an all prevailing bi-polar political disease that wants to pigeon hole everything into black and white.I don't agree with John Pliger's views on the left ,nor do I agree with everything that Ron Paul espouses,but the two common factors of these two honest men is their integrety and honesty allowiing freedom of thought to determine our own destinies.

John is right is every scintilla of evidence portrayed in this article.The US corporate political system is totally corrupt,but that does not make the basic tennants upon which this system of free markets were based totally false.It is all about fairness and balance of power.That is the difficult part to get right.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 1:47:29 AM
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You seem to agree with many academic historians for a change, Keith.

The true perspective to prevent war is balance of power between greater nations.

But what you've had in the Middle for far too long is tiny Israel with the most modern nuclear artillery calling the tune.

The point is that if Iran's nuclear capacity can be destroyed, it will most likely shut down any Global Islamic prestige for years to come.

Thus from an academic futuristic point of view based on the premise that a nuclear Iran is unlikely to attack another country unless attacked herself, maybe Israel should be told to pipe down and peruse more about a safer world to come.

Regards, BB, WA.
Posted by bushbred, Thursday, 8 October 2009 2:07:17 PM
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