*Yabby and Pericles have their own hidden agendas*

Sheesh, now my cover has been blown. I was going to keep those
monthly CIA payments a secret! Never mind, Arjay will never
notice that his phone is being tapped already :)

Has any of you cowboys ever thought through the conspiracy theory
that you are claiming? Do you know how many people would need to
be involved? No whistleblower claiming 50 million$ from the press,
which is what they would easily pay for that kind of a story if
there was any real evidence?

The thing is, discussing this with you lot is as pointless as
discussing religion and evolution theory with runner. So most
OLO posters realise that its purely a waste of time and simply
tolerate your nonsense without comment. An open forum like OLO
invites fruitcakes and we have our share of them.

Arjay, the design of the twin towers was pretty well discussed on
international television, after 911. Unlike many concrete skyscrapers,
these things were built lightweight, with light steel
trusses supporting 4 inch concrete floors, lots of cladding on the
outside.

Once you heat steel, it starts to lose its strength and bends.
Steel is great, when used as designed, but when it bends out of
shape, it soon snaps. Add all that weight and heat, you saw what
happened. But this was discussed to death on international tv, I am
not going to waste alot of time on it.

Dagget watches U-tube and its never occured to him that what he
watches might be a forgery. Osama did in fact admit to being part
of the 911 plan, just on on Daggets video. But the mountain
of evidence about Al Queda is far larger then that. Just ask the
Pakistanis, they have to deal with these religious nuts every day
and their news is full of it.

But of course its all the CIA, I forgot. Blowing up Australian
tourists in Bali was a mere diversionary tactic, all those people
involved were actors on the CIA payroll too it seems

Arjay wrote, "Yabby ... [has his] own hidden [agenda]"

Arjay, I think you will find that Yabby is actually with us and not against us.

Sometimes supporters of the 9/11 Truth Movement, rather than arguing our case directly and openly as we are now attempting to do, choose, instead, to play the role of obviously ridiculous parodies of those defending the Official US Government explanation of 9/11 in order to better show up the underlying illogicality of the case they put in real life.

Note Yabby's abysmal pretended grasp of the structural design of the Twin towers and of the properties steel when heated to several hundred degrees at most by the remnants of the aviation fuel that did not burn in the air around the towers.

The fact that if structural steel were as likely to fail when subject to such relatively small fires as there were in the Twin Towers, and Building 7, as Yabby is pretending to argue, then hundreds of other steel framed buildings should also have been completely destroyed by fires by now, when, in fact, not one other ever has, is a dead give away.

Note also Yabby's conspicuous lack of reference to any of the sources upon which he bases his clearly ludicrous and unscientific views.

And, finally, also, note that Yabby still pretends not to have realised that all the supposed 'confessions' of Osama bin Laden are obvious fakes.

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Pericles complained, "it is the fate of every second thread on OLO to be hijacked by the 9-11 conspiracy nutters."

Actually, Pericles, if you had read the article, you would have understood that its central premise is that it is necessary to remain in Afghanistan in order to defeat a world wide conspiracy of Islamist extremists the purpose of which is to launch yet further 9/11-style terrorist attacks against Western nations from what was its sanctuary in Afghanistan.

So, this discussion had already been, as you put it, "hijacked by the 9-11 conspiracy nutters" even before either Arjay or myself had made our first contribution to this discussion.

That's an interesting angle, daggett.

>>So, this discussion had already been, as you put it, "hijacked by the 9-11 conspiracy nutters" even before either Arjay or myself had made our first contribution to this discussion.<<

I noticed this trend on another thread.

You are pretending that the official US Government explanation of 9/11 is a story put out by "conspiracy nutters", while your bunch of fruit-loops are the "truth seekers".

Applause, for your acts of pure bastardry on the English language.

Orwell would be proud of you.

Unfortunately, that doesn't change the facts.

At every opportunity, either you or Arjay bleats claptrap like "They cannot explain the fact that 3 buildings came down at virtually the free fall acceleration of gravity" or other such dross.

The fact is, you cannot, either.

All you can do is parrot what some fringe-dweller has posted on the internet, and pretend that you "understand" it.

You don't.

You talk of "obviously fake video tapes", but you have no way of knowing. You just repeat someone else's random collection of circumstances, knitted together into a lookit-me, aren't-I-clever grab-bag of loony-tunes conspiracy.

Arjay talks - as if he has the faintest clue whereof he speaks - of "the scientific evidence of re-acted and un-reacted nano-thermite". An immense and convoluted theory, that includes the connivance of an entire security firm to secretly plant thousands of tons of explosives, is built from a handful of residual dust.

Whose constituion, and the reasons for it being thus constituted, are way beyong Arjay's ability to determine.

It's just gossip. Writ large. That's all.

To pour scorn on a "Yabby's conspicuous lack of reference to any of the sources" when your own "sources" are in simply the places where bunches of paranoids gather together, is pathetically and transparently self-serving.

Accusing others of "having no proof", in such circumstances, would be laughable, if it wasn't so abjectly sad.

Pericles wrote, "The fact is, you cannot [explain the fact that 3 buildings came down at virtually the free fall acceleration of gravity], either."

From this it appears that Pericles has conceded a key point of the 9/11 Truth Movement.

That point is that the 'collapses' of the three World Trade Center buildings have not been explained by the body charged with investigating those 'collapses', that is, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST).

Pericles, is it acceptable to you or not acceptable to you that the causes of the three unprecedented engineering disasters which occurred on 11 September 2001 remain forever a mystery?

It is not acceptable to the 9/11 Truth Movement and that is why they are demanding a new inquiry.

If we are wrong about the controlled demolition hypothesis, then a proper inquiry will show that to be the case, however, at the moment, no other hypothesis begins to adequately explain the physical and eyewitness evidence related to those collapses.

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I am sorry to see that by having referred to Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists as "conspiracy nutters" I upset you so much, but how else should I refer to a group of people who so doggedly cling to such a ridiculous unscientific beliefs in the face of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

A succinct outline of the Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory has just been posted to http://911blogger.com/node/21580 :

Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah...

Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes...

And hangover or not, they manage to give the world's most sophisticated air defense system the slip...

Unphased by leaving their "How to Fly a Passenger Jet" guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely...

Our masterminds even manage to overpower the odd law of physics or two... and the world watches in awe as steel-framed buildings fall symmetrically - through their own mass - at free-fall speed, for the first time in history.

Despite all their dastardly cunning, they stupidly give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the fireball undamaged and fall to the ground... only to be discovered by the incredible crime-fighting sleuths at the FBI...

...Meanwhile down in Washington...

Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked 2-man Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a Boeing...

Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little...

Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the world's most heavily defended building...

...all without a single shot being fired.... or ruining the nicely mowed lawn... and all at a speed just too fast to capture on video...

...Later, in the skies above Pennsylvania...

So desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that otherwise would not be possible until several years later...

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Oh dear, daggett.

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Must you?

Really, this has nothing to do with the truth of anything, has it?

It is just a way for you to feel important.

I suspect that you are unhappy in your unfulfilling job. Your family thinks you are weird. And the most-dialled number on your mobile is the one for nasal delivery technology.

So you feel the need to fill the void with fantasy.

There's nothing wrong with that.

I just wish you wouldn't inflict it on us.