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Fixed terms, unintended consequences : Comments

By Kerry Corke, published 4/9/2009

New South Wales: Nathan Rees should be allowed to visit the Governor and go to the polls.

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In the American systen there is absolutely no long term planning BECAUSE the house is up for election every 2 years. What you get is short term sectional interests being privileged over long term national interests.
Fixed 4 year terms were designed to partially address this issue.
This argument is reminiscent of the tired old fogey of Labor voters are stupid cause they keep voting Labor when they should be smart and make their seat marginal. It's interesting that this argument is never applied to safe coalition seats. One wonders what the author's position would be if a coalition government was the one with 18 months still to run.
Posted by shal, Friday, 4 September 2009 12:38:34 PM
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If The Liberal government was as incompetant as this useless labor government, then definitely get rid of them.

It is a big problem in Australia, when people continue to defend useless, corrupt, incompetant governments
Posted by dovif2, Friday, 4 September 2009 2:46:52 PM
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The Government of New South Wales whether Liberal or Labor has been in the hands of criminals since 1970. In the representative democracy established by the Australian Constitution, in 1900, there was no such thing as a Sovereign Parliament and by a hefty margin, the voters from all over Australia approved that system. Without a check and balance on Parliamentary Sovereignty, organized crime takes over the Parliament by infiltrating both major political parties, and a weak and indecisive federal Government suffering from the same malaise has failed in its duty to ensure national Government.

The criminals govern not from Government house or Parliament but from across the road in the Supreme Court. The weak and indecisive Federal Government has let the Federal Court of Australia be ruled by criminals, and instead of it filling its role as a check and balance on State Government excesses, it is an exclusive club run by criminals for criminals, without any redeeming features at all. It would not exist in its present form, unless criminals were running the Supreme Court in New South Wales.

We are unhappy with the New South Wales Government because it is unaccountable to anyone, simply because the separation of powers of church and state has been abolished in New South Wales and Australia, and the controlled democracy that was imposed by the organized crime gangs in New South Wales in 1970 was introduced in the Commonwealth by the :Liberal Party, because there was no one to tell them they are wrong.

There are five High Court cases that if applied, will fix the problem in New South Wales and Australia. They are R V Kidman (1915) which states that there is only bone stream of justice in the Commonwealth, and any departure from the Australian Constitution is an indictable offence. The second is Kable in 1996, which held that State parliaments are nor Sovereign. The third is Forge (2006) where the High Court held that there is a “Kable Principle”. The fourth is Pape, in July 2009, where S 15A Acts Interpretation Act 1901 ( Cth) was held uncontroversia
Posted by Peter the Believer, Sunday, 6 September 2009 8:11:42 AM
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The biggest problems politically that this country faces are the lack of accountability and the lack of democracy. This is not democracy: more a dictatorship which we vote for every 3 – 4 years (depending on your locale). A‘Party’ then makes the decisions along party lines not in the interests of the public. The interest lately have been highly favourable to business and come at the expense of social cohesion and any semblance of equity.
Then there is the first point on accountability: accountable to whom? Opinion polls run daily but the decisions made are not in the public interest and supported by extensive advertising designed to hoodwink and ill-informed electorate.
This country needs a significant shift in the political arrangement with decisions for major reform, privatisation, or policy given to the public via plebiscite. This would ensure that the decision to change a public policy or sell significant assets is made by the public not by politicians with vested interests and perceived malefactor.
It is not proper to compare how the Australian system works with that of the U.S. as they are intrinsically different. The concept of party in the U.S. is entirely different. There is no party membership as in Australia or any obligation to vote along party lines. The members (and the term is used here loosely) are not required to follow any party directions and in many cases they do not. The system – while also being perceived as politically corrupt for similar reasons – provides for a higher accountability to the public with members frequently ceding their vote to the interests of their electorate. This would never happen here particularly in the Senate which no longer even remembers why it was founded. Currently serving as a rubber stamp for party not State rights as was the intent (Senator Joyce a possible exception).
What is needed is a political shift back to the needs of the people as representation is idealised to address and a higher level of participation to avoid government going far beyond their mandate.
Posted by Darron C, Sunday, 6 September 2009 8:14:36 AM
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The fifth case was brought down on the 26th August, 2009, and is Lane v Morrison. Organised crime loves the concept of a controlled government, and with almost unlimited tax free dollars to bribe politicians with, has been able to own the newspapers, most of the media and even Parliament itself. In Lane v Morrison the Chief Justice and Justice Gummo0w defined the word “court”. We have not had a Supreme Court in New South Wales or Australia since 1970.

In 1979, the Liberals realized that the State Police in every State were in partnership with organised crime. ( Norman Allen left an estate of $4.5 million, on a Police Commissioners salary) They created the Australian Federal Police, but so strong are the tentacles of organized crime, that it has been until today a toothless tiger.

Paul Keating’s government gave the Australian Federal Police the tools to straighten out every State Government. They have so far refused to use them. S 43 Crimes Act 1914 ( Cth) is a catch all criminal Statute, that if applied, would see every State Judge and Magistrate stripped of his office, and charged with a serious indictable offence. It says: any person ( including Judges and Magistrates) who attempts , in any way not specially defined in this Act to obstruct, prevent, pervert or defeat the course of justice in respect of the judicial power of the Commonwealth, shall be guilty of an offence.

That includes every member of the Parliament in New South Wales, who took part in enacting the Supreme Court Act 1970. It catches on authority of R v Kidman, Judges and Magistrates who sit without juries anywhere in Australia.

There are about 1500 very prominent criminals, who should be called to account. The problem is so huge that a wholesale pardon, in the Christian tradition, should be offered to Judges and Magistrates throughout Australia, who will accept that organized crime has taken over Australia, and that they can fix the problem. The Australian Federal Police can fix the problem if Kevin Rudd just stops using political influence upon them
Posted by Peter the Believer, Sunday, 6 September 2009 8:34:21 AM
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We have four year fixed terms and an elected government. No matter how bad they are, this is not South America or Africa. They are a bad government but must be allowed to serve out their full term.

Besides, the real issue is the mock indignation of the Liberal/National Coalition who are in Opposition. They are just wanting to get hold of power quicker than is thier due. They would do much the same as the ALP.

There is an alternative for balance of power in the Upper House at the next State election in 2011.
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Posted by JCurtin, Monday, 7 September 2009 10:46:52 AM
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