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In case of water emergency ... dial? : Comments

By Bruce Haigh and Kellie Tranter, published 31/8/2009

The management of water in Australia is in a state of crisis.

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we of the junkies against crime liberation front are experts at seeing through the governments policys of its mine all mine we wonder how when we get water for free pay taxes for the pipes and dams ,pumping stations that those moral prostitutes in canberra ,dare to sell it to you gullible people who are not on drugs ,we are pissing our selves at how they con you every time, and you never learn then you look down on us as if we are stupid, our problem is you gave ownership of our rights to these mongrels and we pay the price of that every day but when our political party finally gets legitimate we will be the only ones who will defend your rights as all slaves see their freedom as precious once they gain it .we are looking at tapping the ord river to teraform australia into a tropical parradise and mop up some of our green house emmissions to stabilize our planet.and what are your parrasitic politicians offering you more taxes and pay rises for them for treating everyone with calouse disregard .remember this when they steal our ideas to pass off as their own regards the motorcycle messiah junkiesagainstcrime@google groups.com
Posted by motorcyclemessiah, Monday, 31 August 2009 12:20:54 PM
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1."Australia needs a national regulatory authority with teeth, answering to the Federal Parliament, to manage, regulate and allocate water"
Cubbie Station was developed legally under laws enacted by the Queensland Parliament. Why do the authors think that a better outcome would prevail if a State Government's authority was replaced by a Commonwealth Government's authority? Are they looking at the Commonwealth's success in Indigenous affairs?
2."Cubbie is a failed experiment" If Cubbie is a failed experiment then the Commonwealth should be able to pick it up for a song. But they can't.
3."Common sense dictates that water cannot be separated from the land that it flows through or beneath which it is captive"
Where do most cities of Australia source their water from? Through the streams that flow through the cities or water beneath the cities? Hardly.
4."Trading in water is antithetical(sic) to nature". Where can I meet nature so I can discuss this proposition further?
5."Agricultural and Mining greed and mismanagement needs to be curbed and regulated" Any other types of greed and mismanagement you want curbed and regulated?
Posted by blairbar, Monday, 31 August 2009 1:28:31 PM
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I certainly agree that the Commonwealth Government should regulate the river systems. They should set a realistic enviromental flow and then be able to sell off the excess. Its worth noting that Cubby Station only took water when the river was in flood. If they had not there would have been floods on people I thought?
However the Queensland Government sold the water entitlement and as all Governments do, have to pay a much higher price to get it back. Lazy useless public servants and lawyers writing what can only be described as corrupt agreements with the Cubby Station at the time.
Lets see the agreement and apportion blame and perhaps then with a reduction in public service pensions to pay for the compensation or maybe just say "No deal" you get what you originally paid at the time. I know the Constitution says no, but lets have a referendum and I bet we will get that through lol.
Also it will be interesting when this drought breaks and we have the East Coast flooded as to what the climate brigade have to say. When the tax is in we will never get it out.
Note income tax was a "temporary wartime measure" Carbon taxes ditto.
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 31 August 2009 3:14:38 PM
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This is just another example where our Federation is making a mess of things. We need a STRONGER truly integrated National government that can respond effectively to these crisis as we enter the era of climate change and peak oil.

Abolish State governments that cannot agree on anything, and set up a proper integrated Department of Environment and Sustainability that can respond to the series of crisis we are about to hit, with water being only one of the first.

A number of 2 tier government models have been set up that describe truly National / Local political systems and how they would work.

http://www.beyondfederation.org.au/

Why have 8 different sets of legal structures about water? Why have such phoney temptation to create "water markets" when the government should be leading us in this area?

Imagine the extra energy our democracy would have if we only had National government creating our laws and policies, and local governments implementing services? Imagine having only 2 tiers of government to negotiate when wanting these larger Australian problems SOLVED! No more blame shifting. No more confusion. One clear National government website with our laws spelt out clearly. Too easy.

Imagine only having to vote twice, once for our reinvigorated National elections and imagine Local government elections finally meaning something again!

We can do this! It is not impossible.
Posted by Eclipse Now, Monday, 31 August 2009 3:58:25 PM
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I would have thought by now we'd be beyond the stereotypical view that cotton farmers are to blame for all the ills of the MDB. You only have to look at the allocations over the last few years to realise that few areas have had more than a token amount of water, Cubbie being an exception. Low allocation availability is as a result of drought and low river flows, not because "too much" water is extracted. If this drought is truly linked to climate change it is not irrigators that are at fault, nor the govt's that allocated water pre-IPCC predictions. The blame lies fair and square with the population as a whole, not water-users trying to make the best living from their operation whether that be cotton growing or heaven forbid - rice.

It's easy to criticise an entity like Cubbie because it is so big, easy to label it corporate greed, when all they've done is like any property developer, develop. The irrigation industry has added $billions to Australias wealth, helping to sustain our standard of living.
Posted by rojo, Monday, 31 August 2009 7:33:44 PM
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