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Indian students - how Australia's education industry failed the PR test : Comments

By Malcolm King, published 25/8/2009

Australia’s excellent international education brand has been sullied by hysterical claims of racism and fraud.

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Sudhir

You made some excellent points with your post.

If Australia continues to simply export raw materials and close manufacturing as it has been, I am not at all surprised to find that there is more employment for IT, Scientists and similar professionals in India which has been making huge inroads into future technologies.

Australia could do so as well; invest in sustainable technology, scientific research as well as IT. There was a time when our Universities stood for something more than profit.

Good Luck for the future.
Posted by Fractelle, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 9:02:32 AM
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Interesting comments.

I finally watched a recorded episode of the Indian students' plight on Insight.

I was actually embarassed by what has happended and should have known more about the issues after years of wondering what these colleges were about as I observed many foreign students outside so-called city colleges.

Australia needs to lift its game. Students coming here just for residency is a joke, govt's relying on such dodgy unregulated industry is a joke, and the treatment of foreign students in terms of accommodation and other services is a joke.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 9:56:24 AM
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C Morgan,
I apologize as my statement about the 12 taxi drivers was incorrect. I have checked the reference from the Sun Herald dated 3/6/09 titled "We're not the racists" in which it clearly states that "of the 12 attacks on taxi drivers between May 8 and August 12...... in EVERY case the victims told police their attackers were AFRICAN and ALL but 2 of the victims were INDIAN."
So I was wrong, I said 10 of the 12 attacks were from dark skinned individuals, whereas it was infact ALL 12.
If you have any evidence to dispute this I would be interested.
Also in the same article it states clearly that a pakistani Uni student Mukul Khanna describes how many of his friends have been attacked " mostly NOT by locals but by people who themselves are of foreign origin."
Also in the same article another student Tanveer X who was bashed in January describes " 4 black men ....hit me with a stick.....I want action against those AFRICAN guys."
Also you have stated that "it doesn't matter what the ethnicity of the attackers is" but you do feel it is important what the ethnicity of the victims is "the fact is that Indian students have reportedly been attacked at disproportionate rates." Why does it matter what the ethnicity is of the victims, if it does not matter what the ethnicity is of the attackers? why? You want to identify one but not the other. Surely if one ethnic group is being disproportionately targeted we want to know, and likewise if one ethnic group is disproportionately doing most of the attacks we want to know.
You have also identified the victims as Indians yet the attackers you say are apparently Australian residents and /or citizens regardless of their ethnic background. Can I ask why you assume that the victims are not residents &/or citizens yet you assume that the attackers are citizens &/or residents. Do you have any proof to back up your assumption? Could I not equally assume that many of the victims are Australians of indian origin?
Posted by ozzie, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 6:55:32 PM
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ozzie, you're quite correct that it would be relevant if the attacks against Indian students were all perpetrated by the same ethnic minority of Australian citizens or residents, but unfortunately we'll have to take your word for it in the absence of a link to the report. I don't suppose you have one? I searched the Sun-Herald website to no avail, and I haven't seen any verifiable information that supports your claims - but there's plenty of hysterical factoids floating around the wingnut blogs.

Why have I identified the victims as Indian students? Because that's what the article's about, you racist dimwit.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 7:31:35 PM
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You didn't search very far did you. I told you it was in the Sun Herald and I told you the exact name of the article. Have you ever heard of a little thing called Google. If you had bothered to lift your fingers and type in Sun Herald and then the name of the article, then the VERY FIRST result is the article I am talking about. I thought I had made it easy for you, I even gave you the date as well. Not only are you a racist but you are also thick, really THICK. So go ahead and check the article. Then please give me an article that supports what you have said.
You still have not said why you wish to identify the ethnicity of the victims but not the attackers. Please also give me references that show me articles to support the rest of your statements.
I also apologize again, as I would have made it easier for you if I'd known you were that thick.
Posted by ozzie, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 8:43:47 PM
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Actually ozzie, I can't find it either, so you're blowing it out of where the sun don't shine.

The article was about an international PR problem when government and unis failed to address a problem of alleged racists attacks and then fraud by some private providers.

Try keep within coeee digger of the basic premise of the story.

I can tell by your vocab and tone that you wrap yourself pretty tight in the Australia flag. You might have even been to Gallipoli or possibly even as far as the corner shop. You might even get choked up at the Dawn Service, but when the going gets tough maaaate, you'll be long gone.
Posted by Cheryl, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 9:42:45 PM
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