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A parallel Australia - tackling mental health : Comments

By Rob Moodie, published 24/10/2005

Rob Moodie suggests ways of combatting the increasing prevalence of mental health problems in Australia.

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Sneekeepete, People do care, but not enough of them. And certainly not enough in government.
I have noticed that not a lot of interest has been shown in things like genetics on this topic. I think it is because all sides of politics really at heart believe that it is just about character or drug usage. Just go and visit the public "psych" ward and you will see what I mean. Nurses and staff running around at a million miles an hour surrounded by sedated-folk clearly in great mental pain and anguish.

Talk to patients and most have been traumatised in some way yes - but why are they in here and not others? What are the factors that see these people in such pain? Why do some have more resilience to trauma than others? We know the answers to these questions but the government just keeps shoving the mentally ill away -out of site out of mind.
I recall the first time I went into the ward. A patient, "Mick" came over to me and looked me in the eyes and said: "You think I'm sh*t. Don't ya'?". In the background a lady was screaming at her non-present husband and another lady was having a conversation with the angel Gabriel. And, of course, the staff were tearing around at a million miles an hour.
Of course, little credence is given to the mentally ill who overcome and operate in society whilst dealing with their mental illness. You won't hear from them (the mentally ill) because they would find themselves also dealing with the stigma and the idiot response of the perfect people - the people with "character" who are "together".
My answer to Mick: "I don't even know you, what makes you say that?". A plane flew over head at that moment and he starting telling me about all the various types of Boeing planes and their various attributes. Society's answer to Mick? Government's funding for the care of the mentally ill suggest that Mick knows the score.
Posted by rancitas, Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:38:33 PM
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rancitas

What an interesting and insightful post. Mick reminds me of many people who I have nursed.

I have responded to you on another thread. I won't repeat the same stuff here - even though it is equally applicable.

As a mental health nurse of long standing who has PTSD and panic attacks as a result of stranger gang rape, and have had completed suicide in my family, I have pretty good insight. I can see things from both sides of the fence. When I reported my family member's suicidal lethality (10/10), I was regarded by a certain community mental health team as being over-involved. I gave them 6 months warning. She died by her own hand - car gassing.

And as Sneekie said (I think it was him/her) if this was a Muslim/Islam issue there would probably be heaps of responses to the article.

Perhaps someone could write about nursing or doctoring in the mental health system when Islam/Muslims are involved? My colleagues used to almost tear their hair out because of all of the privileges given to Muslim people that were not given to non-Muslim people. I cannot speak on the issue because I did not have Muslim clients in the community mental health setting.

I love working with people who have mental health problems (and their families). It is my privilege. It could be me one day! Or it could be any of the posters to this forum.

Take care
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Thursday, 27 October 2005 6:35:47 PM
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In response to Kalweb.

I had nursed Muslim - men and women - on and off years and I dont recall offering them any extra treatment - except that some women preferred a female doctor - but it was never insisted upon to the point of impracticality - but some anglo women requested the same deal; if we could do so we did.

I was a midwife for a while and delivered a bunch of muslim women - only once did a young muslim girl - in very early labour request a female midwife - so as I as I was a bloke ( and still am for that matter ) I stepped aside for one of my female colleagues; easy.
Posted by sneekeepete, Friday, 28 October 2005 8:12:37 AM
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sneeke

Good clarification. Thanks.
Posted by kalweb, Friday, 28 October 2005 3:57:36 PM
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Now, now... sneakey's posts have absolutely no relevance to the topic...mental health? Should be deleted 'eh sneakey!

Come to think of it, the deterioration of mental health among Australians has nothing to do with "discrimination on the grounds of race, religion, ethnicity" as Moodie suggests, but everything to do with the isolation and alienation many individuals feel in a 'progressive' modern society.

Fast paced technology replaces human interaction. A lack of human interaction makes people more succeptible to depression and hence a deterioration in mental health.

In fact, there is a higher incidence of depression among people from broken families than the socialist claptrap Moodie pushes.

It becomes clear throughout the article that Moodie is really just pushing his agenda, you know, his multicultural love affair.

The real causes of depression are: lack of job security, increased availability of drugs in the community, lack of a sense of belonging (brought on by the repulsive multiculti Moodie admires) and family breakdown. Moodie is really hitting and missing the core issues surrounding mental health.

The article is ruined by his attempt to push an ideological agenda ie: political correctness
Posted by davo, Saturday, 29 October 2005 6:48:24 PM
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Thanks, davo, I stand corrected. I had always believed the various doctors who told me I could thank my parents' genes for my own manic depression, but I bow to your greater wisdom. Sneekepeete's original post omitted at least one category - offensive drivel, born of ignorance.
Posted by veryself, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 6:56:48 PM
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