Don, do not we all have many different faces or masks for the company we are in. Do you not act differently when in the company of your mother than when you are with your mates. One thing for sure, Mr. Turnbull does not have a poker face. He has looked miserable this week. Please is there anything that Mr. Rudd can do to please some people. It says something, that most of the criticism is at the level of nit picking.

It was poor strategy by Mr Turnbull to have come in so hard against Mr Rudd and Mr Swan in relation to "Utegate". In my mind we can think ourselves lucky that Mr Turnbul is not Prime Minister when he is clearly showing that he is not able to handle sensitive matters.

For goodness sake, some people can get totally hung up on the most superficial stuff. Come on Don, step past this sort of rubbish about multiple faces and Utegate and look at the quality of governance being dished out by Rudd and what Turnbull and his mob have got to offer, or more to the point; don't have to offer.

You’ll find plenty to pick at there – stuff of great importance to our future wellbeing.

“…we can think ourselves lucky that Mr Turnbull is not Prime Minister…”

Indeed we can ant. But we can also think ourselves very unlucky that Rudd IS PM.

But it has everything to do with the policies and scant little to do with these individuals, except of course that they espouse horrible policies….the greatest policy problem being the absolute worship of rapid population growth and never-ending expansionism.

If the battle is hopeless, any good general makes a hasty withdrawal, and regroups. This fellow Turnbull is a bit like the English Generals at Gallipoli, who had to lose a lot of Australian lives, as well as a lot of English ones too, before they admitted they were wrong. The Liberals have been massacred, in no less a way than the Australians were massacred by Turkish machine guns.

The usual solution in such a situation is to change the General. Turnbull and the Liberals deserve a huge amount of stick. They have been instrumental in merging Church and State in Australia into nine independent Bishoprics, each under the Suzerainty of a Chief Justice, with a retinue of quasi Priests, in direct contradiction of the Constitution. It was Menzies who first persuaded the High Court in 1952, to remove itself as a political force, and make itself a political farce, by enacting Order 58 rule 4 Subrule 3 High Court Rules 1952, to allow the Registrar and One Judge to control everything the High Court will hear. Australia has had a legal system like a headless chicken ever since.

In 2004, just before the Liberals downed Latham, the High Court Rules 2004 were proclaimed by the High Court. The Rules were made on the 5th October 2004. Four days later Latham met his Waterloo. You cannot tell anyone the High Court did not deliberately publish those Rules, to take advantage of the political confusion that follows any election.

Turnbull is no angel. He is a lazy incompetent lawyer, with no understanding of the Australian Constitution, and even less respect for the rule of law. He was a New South Wales Lawyer. They are the direct descendants from the lawyers who were given a choice. Go to jail or go to Australia mostly for perjury. Rudd is right to give him heaps of waddy. He deserves it. However one of the maxims of law is be careful what you ask for. Does Kevin really want Turnbull to resign? An effective Liberal Leader is probably the last thing Kevin Rudd really wants

It is a little hard to understand how the separation of Church and State were effected to establish the lasting English democracy. Rudd is a democrat, Turnbull is an autocrat. The separation of Church and State was effected by the English, by adopting the very words of the Holy Bible, to their government. The original advocate of the separation of Church and State was Jesus Christ. If anyone buys a Holy Bible with the words of Jesus Christ in Red Letters, it becomes clear just how he advocated this radical departure from existing Roman Catholic ( universal) Rule. Rudd is an Anglican, and for twelve or more years has been taking instructions in one of their churches.

When Jesus Christ stated his instructions from the Father were to separate Church and State he did so, in John 5 verses 22 and 23. Almighty God divested himself as the State from the power to be a Judge. He vested that in Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ did not approve of Kings, and nor does Almighty God, so He taught the separation of powers. Jesus Christ in Luke 12 verse 10, teaches that the Holy Spirit, to whom all hearts are open, is to be the Heavenly judge, on earth while he is away. However Almighty God is still Chief Executive Officer of the Universe. At least that is what Kevin Rudd believes while he still attends church. Every Judge is God’s delegate. However when a Judge sits without a jury, as the Liberals have enacted he may, he is not separating Church and State but merging it.

Kevin Rudd should lay off Turnbull, who is a Roman Catholic. If he does not, the Liberals may just find an understanding leader. Almighty God may not be treated as a joke. So far we still have homelessness, we still have autocrats in charge of the Federal Courts in Australia, and we have avoided a recession, by a cats whisker. When we get a Liberal leader who does what KR did to JH, and seeks to keep the government honest, then we get good government

Hope this helps ; Turnbull could vote for him if I was almost unconscious ; ditto Rudd who is a Fake eg; BS baffles brains .

There is some people with integrity , I fancy the Abbott a steady hand on the tiller to navigate the perilous Cairns like maze ahead .