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Forcing density in Australia's suburbs : Comments

By Tony Recsei, published 24/7/2009

Mistaken 'green' ideology and financial rewards to developers have made high-density an enduring feature of Australia's planning policy.

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Don't you fools know already that Australian governments are run by us Italian, Greek & Jewish interests that stretch right back to our homeland corruptible governments. We even have an australia seat in our Parliament for God's sake. Your Dumb Labor Politicians ... are just tools.

Our property development scams are our reward for the work of governance of your society into the third world toilet bowl. Ya think it's easy? Or ya think an all out Mafia is a better option?

We tried puttin' our own people in your parliament. They got greedy, It failed. We like it THIS way. If you don't like it, its too late. So get back in your boxes, God knows we've built enough of them for you. And shudda up your face.

Yours Corruptibly

The Don

Ah Multicorrupturalism!

I'll be Frank, its The best Con for the Don.
Posted by KAEP, Saturday, 25 July 2009 10:57:35 AM
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The problem with higher density housing, is that it is driven by expedience. A suburb consisting of 1000sq.m. blocks can become a vibrant community, if planned and serviced properly. A suburb of 300sq.m. blocks will become a pocket of disadvantage and crime down the track. Generally inferior design, lacking passive surveilance, often lacking public transport, and a lower socio-economic demographic all combine to make these devlopments the ghettos of the future. But it is a cheap way of packing in the ratepayers and saving a few bob on infrastructure, the problems will eventuate after everybody has got their money.
Posted by PatTheBogan, Saturday, 25 July 2009 11:55:48 AM
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Rocketing out of control.

It appears to me that even the best or sustainably educated leaders at National and State level can do nothing if Local Governments themselves are so prone to the unbalanced checks of cost heavy and cross-purpose leanings of developers. Take Cook Shire for example. It is not only Sydney or Urban areas that are prone to the lost opportunities of savvy improved, smart human ecological planning through development.

When you consider the strategic importance of Cooktown in relation to the "whole" significance of Cape York, it is a loss to all Australia.

How can Local Planning be "local" if there is insistently a 'blatant conflict of interest, where half of the members of the minister's assessment panel are developers who stand to gain from the implementation strategies being assessed and the other half are bureaucrats. There is no community representation.'

AND;

How can Local Planning be "local" if there is insistently a blatant conflict of interest, where half of the members of the local Council are developers or closely associated through their business network with the interests of developers who stand to gain from the implementation and signing of agreements, being assessed, and the other half indifferent bureaucrats.

In this kind of 'democracy' there is no scrutiny made to ensure real leadership based on community representation. If life truly matters then it is debatable which conversation could give weight to stimulate change.

Talking about "Selling out";

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lifematters/stories/2009/2634481.htm

or perhaps "Dealing with tricky people".

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lifematters/stories/2009/2632021.htm

Australia needs to hammer these issues Tony Recsei. Be it Government or Development Planning it seems we do less, the more we know.

Top comments here and hats of to Yabby for his 'What we are creating is little more then a human zoo.'

AND;

For the record see a related sample of bureaucrat evidence pans in crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/stories/2009/2632244.htm

http://www.miacat.com/
Posted by miacat, Saturday, 25 July 2009 12:55:03 PM
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We would not have a housing/property problem if we manage our population and limits its growth - preferably to zero.

According to statistics Australia's population increased by 3.8% in the last year that means in 18 years it will double to 44 million.
Do we have enough resources (land, water etc.) to build all the houses required?

We only export 30% of our grain, that does not leave much for population expansion and then will have to import, where from?
We are already a net importer of fruit and vegetables, if the drought continues, as is likely with another El Nino, then we will have to import more - again where from?

We are clearly over populated.
Posted by PeterA, Sunday, 26 July 2009 1:01:21 PM
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Peter is quite right.The latest population increases are running at a 50 year high at 400,000 per year,two thirds from immigration levels.These amounts are far beyong the NSW Dept of Planning's recent projections for NSW and particularly Sydney.The Dept's medium and high density agenda over the last 20 years is responsible for the decline in Sydney's amenity-gridlock,pollution and increases in housing cost are due to these misguided policies.The unaffordable rents in Sydney and Melbourne are being distorted due to the 350,000 overseas students who are basically doing phoney couses in hospitality etc to obtain Australian passports and paying thosands for the privilege.Housing standards are being degraded by these same students living 10 to a unit.The student visa/buy an Australian Passport racket was started by Howard and still continues under Rudd.The result is a part phoney immigration racket for skills we can easily teach Australians.Doctors etc are not what we are getting.Australians and our standards are being sold down the drain thanks to the Howard and Rudd governments "money at any costs" policies.

Tony2
Posted by Tony2, Sunday, 26 July 2009 1:27:34 PM
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"The latest population increases are running at a 50 year high at 400,000 per year,two thirds from immigration levels."

And Australia's mining mafia are trying to land grab agricultural pastures, where overall, Australia already feeds 60 million people.

Help..........lock the door......the bus....she's a already full!
Posted by Protagoras, Sunday, 26 July 2009 1:58:41 PM
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