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By Andrew Baker, published 20/7/2009

Dogma, in religion or science, is anathema to education, only serving to limit our understanding of the world.

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Speaking of Truth these sets of essays provide a unique template for the assessment of every point of view.

1. http://www.adidam.org/teaching/aletheon

Plus the two essays on this reference give a unique perspective of the limitations of scientism, and why conventional exoteric religiosity cannot successfully counter the culture created in the image of scientism.

1. http://aboutadidam.org/newsletters/toc-february2004.html

Plus 2 related essays on the absurdity of searching for the Truth. Absurd because the Truth is the condition of everything right now, and thus all of the time while you are seeking IT.

1. http://www.dabase.org/search.htm
2. http://www.dabase.org/rgcbpobk.htm
Posted by Ho Hum, Monday, 20 July 2009 8:34:34 PM
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Reading through the posts on this one there seems to be something wrong. The article and responses don't seem to match. I fear there is a technical error in which the posts to another article are somehow ending up here
Posted by Daviy, Monday, 20 July 2009 10:43:41 PM
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Jon J
"Science has given us cars, aeroplanes, central heating, air conditioning, refrigeration, sanitation, computers, insulation, the Internet, wonder drugs, spacecraft, television and ballpoint pens.

Religion, spirituality and mystic woo has given us... what, exactly?"

Science
Posted by Grey, Monday, 20 July 2009 10:46:14 PM
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Sylvia, I assume you're referring to Islam?
Posted by Grim, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:37:38 AM
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I kind of liked the fact that I recieved "religious education" in school. It allowed me to compare the scientific approach to the religious one. Whilst science is humble and self-correcting, religion is dogmatic and uses "debating technique" to survive.
Science is the tool of the person who wants to get things done, religion is the tool of person who wants safety and comfort.
Children just need to be given a fair comparison, something they are *not* getting in religious schools where they are actually lied to with regards science. The commonly heard "argument" is: "I can't imagine how evolution works, so it is not credible". The hubris!
What they "teach" about science is based on profoud misunderstanding and ignorance. Building and burning strawmen is not education, it is evil brain washing.
The fact that reality is complex, so science must be equally complex is bad news for the "if I can't comprehend it immediately it cannot be important" brigade.
Hey, dumb kids have to have some intellectual pursuit, and I truly believe that stupidity plus large egos and a sense of entitlement is a large part of the religion phenonemon.
Posted by Ozandy, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 9:47:54 AM
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i smell a fair amount of devil's advocacy in this thread.

baker's (feyerabend's) point that scientific method is no sterile, robotic logical practice is fair enough. it would be hugely helpful for students to get an honest sense of the nature of scientific progress.

but there is such a thing as scientific progress. the genuine philosophical debate about scientific method is no excuse to demean the pragmatic reality of scientific truth. for baker to reduce scientific truth to simply another "belief system" is ludicrous.
Posted by bushbasher, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 10:22:47 AM
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