Pynchme: << (You sound like a nut) >>

You may not have twigged, but "vanna" is just the latest sock puppet ID of the misogynist troll formerly known as HRS, Timkins and Timithy. "Nut" is putting it kindly.

Vannakins - you never answered my question. Are you still banned under your "HRS" pseudonym?

Vanna .<How do you define a person as being a woman or a man>

I agree that there are some broad variations in the degree of X and Y chromosones in groups of men and women in most societies. Take Margaret Thatcher, one could suspect her of having a bit less of the Xchromosone and a degree more of the Y male chromosone. However in a country that oppresses women she would be treated as a woman because she has the body of a woman. If she refused to act and dress like a woman in a public street she would be taken by the male religious police to prison or shot by a militant or something. That is the issue, how humans with the outward appearance of a woman are denied proper justice and human rights in male dominated societies. You could argue until you were blue in the face with the Ayotollahs that poor old Margaret was entitled to walk around the street without being covered in a sheet because she had male tendencies but they would judge by her outward physical appearance. Not having a lab immmediately to hand to test chromosones that would be all they had to go on. Societies that are this intolerant of sexuality would be even more likely to kill you if they found out you didn’t fit the mould of being one sex or the other.

Gender benders don’t have any chance of any kind of rights until male dominant societies can accept the equality of any sex that isn’t male. After all by and large it isn’t the women who persecute people with differing sexuality(homosexuality etc.) it’s the men. How do you judge which are women and men when you’re out in public Vanna?

G'day CJ:

I recall seeing the IDs HRS and Timkins but didn't become familiar with them so I wouldn't recognize them. Gee another one of the 8th C Menz crowd. No wonder I sparked.

Vanna - Sharkfin has already explained the issue. From my personal perspective, I think individuals should define their sex. I don't presume to classify anyone.

CJ Morgan,

What does HRS mean?

Sharkfin, (Now that’s a more suitable name for a feminist. I get very suspicious if a feminist calls themselves something sweet and nice such as Isabel).

I think the question of who is male and who is female has now become very fundamental. For example, the myopic feminist author teaches children she judges to be girls, but not boys. So she must have a feminist and myopic way of dividing up the population into girls and boys.

There is no scientific way of determining who is male and who is female (and never will be), so judging someone’s gender is all subjective. In the myopic feminist author’s case, she judges someone purely by their superficial looks.

vanna/HRS/Timkins et al - are you a man or a woman? How can you tell?

CJ

According to his own logic, as Vanna/HRS/Timkins is not "sweet and nice" he must be a feminist.