Can't believe it, beat them to it!

Any minute now we will be joined by "leigh", "runner", 'rpg" and all the usual suspects.

They will then start "banging on" about how believers in AGW have been conned, it is all a giant conspiracy. all of the scientists at enterprises such as the CSIRO, universities around the world etc are only saying there is AGW to ensure continuity of grants, employment etc etc. They will post a few links to reams of charts proving that it has been getting cooler since 1998.

The problem for governments such as Victoria is that this misinformation is starting to bite. They use exactly the same tactics as the tobacco lobby used for decades; namely suggest that "the science is not proven", there is general disagreement amongst the world's scientific community and on and on.

It is hardly surprising that governments are starting to "blink".

Fiona - Bex, good lie down.

OMG the world is ending again, its everyone's fault and a very special finger wagging at those questioners known to the industry as skeptics and to the AGW believers as "DENIERS!" (shout loudly that last word, try to sound hurt and offended as well)

Peter, I don't actually post links as I think the Google wars are pointless as everyone can find links to suit their corner's POV. I don't go on about conspiracies either.

Good thing you stopped there before you looked like a complete fool.

BTW - "the science in not proven", if it was, you wouldn't need to post panicky defenses sneering at other people.

This author, like so many others has completely lost the perspective in which Australia and Victoria should be viewed. An emotional almost hysterical allegation that Victorians are the worst per capita polluters in the world, and single handedly can make any kind of difference whatsoever, is unsustainable. There are only about five million people in Victoria. It is one quarter the size of Mumbai, and its per capita pollution, makes up a minuscule part of the worlds CO2 production.

It is a bit like a mouse standing on its hind legs and telling the world it is an elephant, or a lion. The Victorian Government has no jurisdiction over any other part of the world, and even a fifty percent reduction in gas emissions would not make any world difference whatsoever. As for saying we will destroy ourselves if we don’t act, that is another example of wrong thinking.

Unless we can persuade the whole world to act in concert, any action here is an exercise in masochism. A self inflicted and pointless punishment of a people by its government without any possible benefit is not intelligent.

The author would be better off if she simply went to Church and prayed that the world will cope. It will because it always has, and nature has a way of balancing things out in the long run. Science has its uses, but when used as a scare mongering tool by people whose vision does not extend to the big picture, and who do not view Australia as a very big place with a very small population, calls for draconian measures are out of place.

What this author is advocating is a green dictatorship. A country where there are huge penalties for creating jobs. Massive unemployment must follow, because if the proposed taxes are levied, they must be paid, and employment will suffer. The books must balance

The appeals to ‘morals’ and ‘ethics’ and other religious dogma never changes; the same old same old that ignores the fact that there is nothing scientific about man-made climate change and the fear of the trace gas CO2 which actually FOLLOWS warming (rather than causing it) and is essential to our well being.

The ‘science’ these harbingers of doom yammer on about is not science at all. Science has been replaced by consensus; there has been no investigation into any of the other elements which could, and do, effect climate.

Most of all, the climate itself is not doing the ‘right thing’ by these witchdoctors; it is actually cooling. This doesn’t seem to faze the hysterics at all (although they refuse to discuss it), and they push on with their fundamentalist ‘religion’ – for that’s what it is; a new, green religion – as they search for meaning and control through control of the environment and people who, like the victims of all fundamentalist religions are frighted out of their wits. The media has done an excellent job in contributing to the fear that has seen scared, ignorant people saying, “Save us. Save the planet, Help us, please” to politicians who are only two happy increase tax gathering and being able to say that the people have asked for their help, and that’s all they are doing.

After it is discovered that the monetary imposts and hardship will not make one iota of difference to the climate, it will be too late.

It will be too late to stop the disappearance of more Australian industries as China and India continue business as usual. Russia will be looking forward to the demise of Western economies, too. They rejected the absurdity of man-made climate change long ago.

The lost of polar ice Armstrong is reiterating is merely the end of a process that started eons ago. All part of natural climate change.

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Make no mistake, we are threatening ourselves with extinction (and quickly) if we do not demand that this government and the Australian government act quickly to avert dangerous climate change”, squeals Armstrong. What a load of alarmist, childish bumph! Doesn’t this person know anything about history and mans’ ability to adapt to nature’s vagaries? The Australian government – no government – can “avert dangerous climate change”. Climate change is no more dangerous now that it has even been, and we have the same ability to adapt to it as ancient people did. We should have more ability, in fact, and scientists would do much better concentrating on adaptation instead of indulging in silly scare-mongering for quick bucks.

In years to come, Fiona Armstrong’s Masters in climate change policy will be of great embarrassment to her.