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The black fingerprints of the greenhouse mafia ... : Comments

By Anne O'Brien, published 2/6/2009

Twenty lost years in climate policy is a crime against humanity.

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I love you Anna O'Brian..but nothing will come of it, as your logic and lack of reason in not accepting the empirical facts presented to refute your self fulfilling profession will alas not support any desired outcomes which would otherwise come to something tangible.
Posted by Dallas, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 1:21:11 PM
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**Ethically, how do you justify killing even one person?

The recent Global Humanitarian Forum report is showing that CC is already responsible for 300,000 deaths/year (http://www.ghf-geneva.org/index.cfm?uNewsID=157) – and this is set to increase. Can you justify this??

**If money is spent on developing and building sustainable energy sources then we will have an answer for the supply of food, shelter, medicine, transport and communications to billions of people.

Look what’s being done in India in 2007 as an example: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11740-affordable-solar-power-brings-light-to-india.html It’s actually opening a whole new world to people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_India

**Show your workings for the entire continents of Eurasia, North America, Africa and South America

Try this: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/guide/keyfacts/google.html

It is true that some areas on the planet will benefit from the changes – this is where education and adaption come into play. Others will not be so lucky.

**Carbon is the basis of all life. It is no more a pollutant than is oxygen, or water.

- and what happens if you get too much or too little of a good thing?

**And I’m not really into “Irrational quasi-religious human-hating neo-fascist state-worship”, I’m just an professional working, mother of two trying to leave a good legacy for my children.

**Added to all of that if you look at graphs of annual global temperatures constructed by the likes of the Hadley centre it looks worrying (at least worryingly to activists) as if it is coming off a peak.

Actually, if you look at the Hadley Centre’s graphs, this is what you will see: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/guide/bigpicture/fact2.html

ooo - and they even answer your question for you here: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/guide/bigpicture/myth2.html

I don’t understand why people are still so against making these changes that will hardly affect their lives, except having cleaner air to breathe, and a change in outlook. And heck, even if by some small chance they are proven right and climate change doesn’t end up being caused by human activity, we will be living in a more sustainable fashion that will reduce international dependencies and oil wars. And what’s the problem with that? It’s a chance I’m willing to take.
Posted by Peturbed, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 1:29:15 PM
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Hysterical rubbish.
Boethius.
Posted by Boethius, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 1:55:37 PM
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If you are serious about the danger of fossil fuels give up your addictions to them.
Some would say we need a cushion at the bottom of this inevitable cliff, so start making one. Wean ourselves of maybe.
Others claim there is no sky falling or lets burn it up and the strong will survive, who really knows which is the best course of action. I am sure our ancestors (if we have any)will have strong words about our selfish actions.
There is no doubt the earth is warming and whether it is human fault or natural cycle is irrelevant. Something needs to be done.
There is no doubt in my mind the earth will survive but will this plague of humans I do not think so.
Posted by beefyboy, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 2:35:05 PM
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To quote a great Australian expression, as so eloquently used in "The Castle": "Get yer hand off it, Anne!"
Posted by Clownfish, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 2:38:15 PM
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How many Climate social clubs are there in Canberra now, must be dozens?

What's the problem with you all belonging to one group?

Is it because you all want to be the boss cocky telling everyone what to do and how, to be the chief finger wagger?

I'm guessing you would have found a cause whatever age you lived in and I'm guessing it would have been telling everyone else what's wrong and what they should do about it. So at least climate change is keeping you off the streets, except when distracting motorists with banners and asking them to bleat with you.

"I resent the continued influence of the fossil fuel lobby", prepare yourself for lots of disappointment in life, you've barely started.

Not everything is a conspiracy, things are less organized than you think, fossil fuels got big because they enabled people to do so many things. (Not everyone wants to live naked and hungry in a dark cave. Fossil fuels provide plastics, transportation, heat, light, they are not all bad)
Posted by rpg, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 3:52:40 PM
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