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The depth of corruption : Comments

By John Pilger, published 1/6/2009

Something is changing in Britain. The British have never been more politically aware and prepared to clear out decrepit myths.

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So who in Australia dares wade into the "babbling brook of bu**sh**"?
Our country is just as guilty of buying into the illegal invasion.
Now that "WMD"s are shown to be complete fabrications, as was any nuclear intentions, as was any (laughable) connections with Bin Laden...where is the accountability? Where are the corrections and retractions from the media? We just killed a million people through deliberate terrible acts...for what exactly? Yes I know, control of oil, but was even this mission achieved? Was it to distract people from the wealth transfer during the then pending Great Bank and Insurance Bailout?
Howard said he had seen intelligence that made invasion the right thing...where is this evidence? Was Howard that easily fooled? (doubtful)
We need some clear party statements from both our parties as to where they stand. Currently it is clear that the lobbyists/party funders are betting both ways and neither party actually represents in a democratic way the masses that vote. Thank God our military is useless. If we were in Thailand it would be time for another Coup.
Posted by Ozandy, Monday, 1 June 2009 8:58:03 AM
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"The British people have never been more politically aware and ... stepping over the babbling brook of b*llsh**."

The Brits lead us in corrupting their MSM, Main Stream Media, and turning them into lapdogs who just subscribe to the ALP media releases and process those as news. John and Ozandy rightly question the lack of political investigative journalism, it really doesn't exist in Australia.

Like Britain, the MSM are so tamed by the ALP that they do their bidding in a heartbeat, not questioning the government at all, while robust and relentless cross examination of the coalition. I watch as the ALP person directs the ABC compere on how they want the coalition person attacked, see last week's Q&A and the Coalition person being grilled about what level of debt they would have - what was the compere thinking, again, misdirection by the ALP and the MSM lap it up.

Australians also are starting to get fed up with the utter crap being fed to them regularly and the ABC is but a wing of the ALP media machine now, such is their defense of the government against anything the opposition dares to say.

I heard Penny Wong yesterday on dear old Laurie Oakes time being given ample opportunity to bemoan that "Turnbull was just playing party politics" (sob, sob), and Laurie sympathized (please retire Laurie, you are an embarrassment) It warms my heart to hear a lawyer complaining she is not getting her own way and someone is "playing politics", delicious!

Finally there are little cracks appearing in the facade, some of the so called journalists are starting to get the message that the public simply don't believe the B*!!S&i* they are getting fed.

Todays problem is the great $ debt of the ALP and climate change, both areas where your average Australian feels he is being fed a line.

Will the MSM, the Canberra gallery wake up, maybe they are slowly, and not before time either.
Posted by rpg, Monday, 1 June 2009 10:31:52 AM
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rpg. I'm not so convinced that the bias is to any one party. The commercial channels are giving Rudd a hard time as compared to Howard. There is always a little bit of "respect for power" but I'd say that is a very thin veneer! The need to be *seen* to be balanced is there, but the actual balance is always to the corporations.
ABC might seem to be "Left wing" and I'll agree it is an outlet where such views are allowed to be seen and heard. Actually it is the *only* such outlet so ABC staff sees themselves as the counterbalance to commercial media. To those on the Right, the centralists are Lefties, to the far Left the centralists are Hard Right. Centralism is not a popular position which explains why Australia is going the way of the US: Polar opposites, never the twain shall meet. The uncompromising media is to blame for this too. Sensationalism and fundamentalism are very similar tools.
Posted by Ozandy, Monday, 1 June 2009 10:46:23 AM
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"The British people have never been more politically aware and prepared to clear out decrepit myths and other rubbish while angrily stepping over the babbling brook of bull-dust (how come he can say it but we can't?)."

Well John, you live there not me but my impression of the UK is that it is 'lagerlout central' and most Poms care not at all what goes on around them.

One only has to see how derelict England is, with a state owned Christian education system that supports rather than challenges to norms of the nation, with a population that barely votes, carries knives, shoots teenagers, gets pissed at every public opportunity it can... I suspect that the 'outrage' hoped for in this article is merely a passing realisation that politicians are scammers, hardly a breakthrough revelation given the economic-social model they all support.

And what's on offer?

'real people' to take the seats at the next election?

The underlying political principles of each party would have to be fundamentally rejected before 'new people' could make any difference.

When the Tories win the next election with the brownshirts of the National Party just behind them, it will be business as usual.

In Qld, the one half decent action of the Joh years was to build a tower block for all of the Qld MLAs to live in.... no more problems with rents-to-the-missus or buying a house-on-the-taxpayers.

There's bound to be space in London for a Butlins style campus for these tossers to live in.
Posted by The Blue Cross, Monday, 1 June 2009 11:21:30 AM
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What we're observing is either a repeat of history where we will see a small average persons revolution and control will remain in the hands of the elitists and they will just change the system more to suit themselves. Or the awakening of the people as they begin to see how far they've been sold down the drain by the rich ideologists and their lackey media. Newspapers are collapsing along with their power as people use the internet to seek out the facts, already we are seeing the backlash of academics, bureaucrats and elitist propagandists trying to find someone or thing to blame other than themselves. It won't be long before they start pushing the line it's secularists and humanists fault. Whilst all the evidence points to the political, corporate and social corruption worldwide, as being all in the hands of the ruling ideologies of our times.

Maybe we're seeing the end of restricting ideology and the fall of elitism as climate, economics, resources and the ability of the corrupt to hide their crimes increases. Let's hope the planet's about to go through a clean out of the filth that's the so called halls of power. Let's hope within a couple of months the wheels will begin to fall of the lib/lab coalition as they try to hide behind their emperors new clothes as the doors open to reveal their greed, corruption and enslavement to corporate dictates..
Posted by stormbay, Monday, 1 June 2009 11:25:28 AM
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@ stormbay

Oh how I wish this were true. It won't happen quick enough if you ask me, all these slime balls need to go!
Posted by RawMustard, Monday, 1 June 2009 4:12:59 PM
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The Poms and Aussies have the same disease, its called stupidity. When the Poms abolished as of right jury trial, and gave all that power to a Judge, Australian legislators caught the virus.

I have heard Pericles say that the Poms don’t have a Constitution. I referred him to two articles dating from 1670, and 1770, which say they do. One was by William Penn, the future governor of Pennsylvania, and the other was Lord Chatham, a Statesman who if listened to may have prevented to colonization of Australia by extending the English Constitution to the future United States.

It was the adoption by the Americans of the Principles of the English Constitution, in their Constitution, that inspired Australians to do the same thing. Sneaky cunning lawyers will always pretend that words have meanings they don’t, and the ultimate corruption both in England and here is the vesting of judicial power in lawyers. From 1297, the English never vested judicial Power in lawyers. To pursue a quasi Soviet Union type of government, the English started vesting power in officers of the State after World War II. These blind and dumb officers, by refusing to abide the English Constitution, and taking absolute power for themselves, let the corruption flow throughout society, just as it did in Soviet Russia. The results will eventually be the same, wherever this corrupt system is allowed to be installed.

It is a blatant corruption granting to themselves, in direct contradiction of all the Constitutions as lawyers, by lawyers in Parliament, of judicial power in Judges. It is a conflict of interest for any lawyer member of Parliament to vote, to vest the Judicial Power of the Commonwealth of the Commonwealth is a Judge. They should all have withdrawn from the Chambers, when S 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976 was being considered, as they had a vested interest in concentrating power in lawyers. They were banned for 498 years from Parliament in England because it was perceived they had a conflict of interest.

The only remedy is to stick to the Constitution as written
Posted by Peter the Believer, Monday, 1 June 2009 4:44:01 PM
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The Australian Constitution was cleverly crafted to keep Australia as a Protestant Christian democracy, and this was done by including the Queen forty times, and requiring all Parliamentarians and Public servants to swear allegiance to Her.

It was not supposed to be able to be avoided by a clever Parliament, but it has and remains in limbo. This is the ultimate in corruption, and the cure for corruption both here and in the United Kingdom is for it to be accepted for what it is. It is an Act of Union with the United Kingdom and Ireland, and is still in force in all three countries, because we have to have a referendum to repeal it, and so far none has succeeded.

The absolute corruption that comes about when the Queen is replaced as head of State by a Parliament and the delegates of the Queen, refuse point blank to accept the responsibilities of allegiance to Her, as all members of Parliament have done, means we have very little hope at all, of ever seeing a return to the rule of law. In order to avoid the consequences of having a Constitution, the States have appointed Judges, and Magistrates as members of an Army of Occupation, which in Australia and England employs an enormous public service. This is no longer accountable back to the people.

The future for the ordinary people in such a world are bleak. The horror world of 1984, that George Orwell wrote about is here with us now. The only hope is for the situation to get so bad that in desperation, the ruling elite is forced to restore the former status quo. A country where corruption from top to bottom remains uncheckable is a country that will see the wealthy get wealthier and the poor get poorer, as we have seen since 1970. If unemployment gets to 10% then there is not enough being produced, to keep the hungry masses fed. We have bought a breathing space. Lets us hope it is not wasted
Posted by Peter the Believer, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 4:26:23 PM
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A little light relief on the British MP's.
I saw this on another site-it is not my wording,-but it's a good 'un:

"In Tesco's while buying some honey,
An MP came over all funny.
He fell on the floor
and started to roar;
Oh My God! I've just spent my own money!
Posted by Ginx, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 6:28:37 PM
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