Yes, now I guess I am just being silly only contemplating the next few millennia.

OUG: The "peak oil" scam is massive, benefiting very rich, unproductive types a.k.a. speculative parasites, and their fellows among non-competitive oil tycoons. It was funny reading all the simpletons bleating about "peak oil" during the speculators' bigger price binges starting a couple of years ago. But it was really sick to see how "bio-fuel" lies helped along such misguided views and illusions of "peak oil" among the gullible, while pushing up staple food prices in a sporadic food crisis. Then the market oil prices plummeted, actual pump prices stayed higher than they should have (for debt servicing), proving "peak oilers" yet again to have no idea. They deserved outright dismissal from that case alone.

Instead, peak oilers' fanaticism keeps them going as if nothing happened. Yet the dynamics of those energy and food price fluctuations reflect an imperialist barbarism that encourages the delusions of those who actually enjoy hating many other people (preferably people who are poor and have different “race” characteristics).

Take for example the imperialist treatment of forests in Indonesia. Nasty, onerous debt burdens have compelled an often furious rate of deforestation for palm oil plantations, whereby the quick sales from timber become supplanted by steadier income from that food staple. But the western-led “bio-fuel” crime (starting with such war criminals as George W. and J. Winston Howard) made some regions of Indonesia fall into that monetarist trap of pumping human foodstuff into a heavily manipulated petrodollar market.

The ensuing so-called “food crisis” brought from speculators caused waves of malnutrition and other privation to many millions of children, including in Indonesia, especially in the regions. Meanwhile, many soft-headed westerners had just one associated concern: orangutans! In some heavily funded orangutan reserves, westerners pay over USD 5,000 for the loving care of one beast. That's the kind of money most Indonesian kids in those areas could never hope to see for their own nutrition and education.

[apologies to RS: I identified him as a common garden “fascist”, but his bestial affections would earn him the more specific “Nazi” tag. Think Hitler's dog “Blondi” and Goering's conservation reserves for bison]

Ah, mal-observer. A shrill overpopulation denier, and now a peak oil denier. Does it get any better? Keep it up. Catharsis can be a good thing. Let all those demons out, but please clean up the mess on my couch when you're done. Thanks.

Yes, we do pity you, mal-observer, and your pathetic appeal to the site administrator is representative of the reasons why. Clearly, you need more couch time.

Running out of arguments, unable to bare your soul and take control of your life, showing for all the world that you are a Peak Oil Denier and a Shrill Overpopulation Denier (a POD and a SOD), it’s now time to move on to reality. Are you up for it?

Human population growth is killing this planet, and it’s only a matter of time before undemocratic Mother Nature fights back. We have no plan for the future, other than grow, grow, grow. Others have likened that to the way a cancer behaves.

Why do you hate future generations so much that you want so badly, and are doing your utmost, to leave them with a polluted, crowded, resource-depleted planet, and vulnerable to a Malthusian collapse? Then again, perhaps you really are a closet Malthusian, and you are just doing your best to make his predictions come true.

Malthus wasn’t wrong, just a bit ahead of his time.

Maybe Tim Flannery's loitering around here? You know, Flannery who mooted pumping the atmosphere with sulphur to prevent Global Warming! Nasty crank and "Oz of the Year" Flannery officially backs Kanck's neo-Malthusian, one-child-policy activists too, and their Australian depopulation target of 7 million (his name plugged them on their website when I checked a couple of months ago). So we can be sure this crowd really does have significant extremist push in Australia's mainstream political landscape.

Anyway, still for the record, even though the fascist thinks I'm in dialogue with it, the following summarizes the main compromising statements and associated premises confirmed by the most blatantly fascist bent on these threads:

1) Despite neo-Malthusians' scientific pretensions, the planet Earth is a mythical entity a la pagan primordialism ("Mother Nature", "Earth Mother", etc.);
2) Earth has its own organic political system above and beyond human agency;
3) By that "political system", Earth is "undemocratic";
4) Those who supplicate before Earth Godhead's absolute power are blessed with special insight and status as "saviors";
5) Those who ignore, disbelieve or doubt such absolute and undemocratic planetary authority are in severe breach of sacred law, and must be regarded as "threats" to an assumed (and always undefined) "equilibrium";
6) Growth in human population is like "cancer";
7) Conditions of economic, nutritional or environmental privation are not due to human agency, but to the impassive and corrective harshness of The Immutable, All-Powerful Earth Mother;
8) Immigration is an "evil" against the "sacred equilibrium", and;
9) Some neo-Malthusians (most conspicuously VKKK3AU) openly expressed racist hostility over immigration and non-English/non-Queen ownership of Rio Tinto, for example.
10) Animals have "rights" i.e., recourse to legal status and redress in civilized processes of jurisprudence;
11) A certain (rarely specified) excess of humans somehow threatens those sacred, immutable rights of animals.
12) Due to the simple presumption of an equation around "sacred equilibrium", such "animal rights" trump any that may be claimed by a certain large number of humans i.e., approximately 13 million in Australia, and at least 3 billion worldwide).

They're Nazis, or at least fellow travellers.

Don't be too hard on mil-observer.

Look up the Citizen's Electoral Council and Lyndon LaRouche, and understand that M-O believes every word of of it.

When someone is convinced that Queen Elizabeth II is secretly in direct control of the US army, what can you do but extend them pity and hope they don't hurt themselves too much when they use cutlery?