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By Michael Cook, published 15/5/2009

Book review: Ian Plimer’s book, ‘Heaven and Earth’ - 'Consensus is a word of politics; it's not a word of science.'

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"C'mon protag - send us some more!"

My dear mil-o – please forgive me for the delay in responding to your request for I know how anxious you are to keep the “damage control” spin afloat. And I am sorry that you have nothing else to latch onto but the “probabilities” in science.

Take EQ’s declaration: “The levels of carbon dioxide due to volcanic have been much higher in the past yet life survived.”

Ah…is EQ guilty of spruiking “probabilities?” I think so mil-o but he fails to address the hypothesis of many eminent scientists who believe that carbon dioxide including the dust and ash from a massive volcanic eruption was responsible for the species extinction during the Cretaceous era. Larger animals (over 25 kg) were all wiped out.

The largest extinctions would be the "Permo-Triassic" extinction. In this obviously catastrophic event an estimated 90% of all species living at that time were extinguished. Scientists are fairly sure that the extinction was due to many changing environmental conditions at that time, but that too is a “probability.”

However, species extinction is currently occurring at a much faster rate than ever before.

Now our most respected scientists estimate that humans are emitting 150 times more CO2 than volcanoes. Naturally, the sausage bangers, mesmerized by the fossil fool industries, would not acknowledge that and besides these hypotheses are all mere scientific “probabilities,” just like smoking gives you lung cancer though not all smokers develop lung cancer.

So mil-o what did you want me to debate? We’ve alluded to Plimer’s fraudulent “Heaven and Mirth” book; the shocking reviews it has received and the “probability” that Plimer has become the laughing stock of the scientific community.

In charitable fashion, I have also advised the bank account details for you to assist the pitiful Plimer, therefore allow me now to give you an update on how your beloved fossil fuel industry is surviving the onslaughts from the planet's inhabitants, whose livelihoods and ecosystems have been destroyed by the greed merchants in the oil industry:

contd…
Posted by Protagoras, Thursday, 28 May 2009 2:34:35 PM
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Why are the self-appointed "leaders" of AGW and neo-Malthusian depopulation all so OTT pompous? Why can't they use plain English? Some jibes or taunts are to be expected in any debate, but these people always condescend without apparently aware that they appear to outsiders as pretentious narcissists and pseudo-intellectuals.

I suspect it's universally a class obsession thing (in some cases that's obvious), but the phenomenon seems to betray also some particular patterns of thought, emotion or even behavioral anomaly. Is it a fetish or sexual preference thing perhaps? Bizarre.
Posted by mil-observer, Thursday, 28 May 2009 3:52:25 PM
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Mil-O, Did you know that the largest oil polluter at the moment is Shell, who’s been dragged kicking and screaming into court this week (I must seek an update.) Shell would have appeared before a US federal court on charges of torture, extra-judicial killing and crimes against humanity.

“Oil companies, including Chevron and Shell, have repeatedly used the Nigerian military to violently repress Delta inhabitants’ peaceful protests, causing deaths and injuries, and creating an environment in which ordinary citizens are unable to exercise their rights to free expression.

“ In 2006, the Niger Delta Natural Resource Damage Assessment and Restoration Project (an independent team of scientists from Nigeria, the U.K. and the U.S.) characterized the Niger Delta as “one of the world’s most severely petroleum-impacted ecosystems."

(2): The U.S. Supreme Court last year, cleared the way for lawsuits to go forward by apartheid victims seeking damages exceeding $400 billion from 23 foreign multinationals for having aided and abetted the perpetration of gross human rights violations in South Africa under apartheid by equipping and financing the apartheid government’s military and security agencies.

Defendants include but are not limited to: British Petroleum, PLC, Chevrontexaco Corporation, Chevrontexaco Global Energy, Inc., Exxonmobil, Shell Oil Company, Rheinmetall Group AG and Rio Tinto Group.

(3): The Alaska Native village of Kivalina, are suing two dozen oil, coal and power companies they claim have caused their land and homes to slide into the Chukchi Sea. Named in the lawsuit are BP PLC, BP American Inc., BP Products North America, Inc., Chevron Corp. Chevron U.S.A. Inc., ConocoPhillips Co., ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch Shell PLC and Shell Oil Co.

(4): In 2007, New York State sued Exxon Mobil Corp to force the cleanup of a decades-old, 17 million gallon oil spill in New York City. "Force?" Note how utterly irresponsible and immoral the fossil fuel industry is?

Word count restriction now Mil-O so I bid you adieu and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your carcass and those of others who continue to sow the seeds of deception.

Toorooloo.
Posted by Protagoras, Thursday, 28 May 2009 4:24:35 PM
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