How do we measure sexuality equality, phanto? Is there a peer-reviewed, standardised international sexual orientation quality assessment tool? Or are we using the Things That Phanto Has Trouble Understanding And Is Made Uncomfortable By For Reasons He Can't Quite Explain scale?

As I have already tried to explain you can measure it by its logic and reasonableness. Is heterosexuality logical and reasonable? Can you say that it makes sense? For instance if you want to create a new life is it logical and reasonable for a man and a woman to have sex for that purpose? You can say yes because you see that the heterosexual behaviour and hence heterosexuality brings about the desired result. It can be proven to be logical and reasonable because we can see the results with our own eyes.

Where is the proof that homosexual behaviour is logical and reasonable? What can we see with our senses that tell us that homosexual behaviour and hence homosexuality is more than just a neurotic aberration? What proof is there that any act of homosexual behaviour is logical and reasonable? It is not enough just to accept the opinions of homosexual people or any of their supporters. They could be quite wrong.

That is the difference which makes them unequal. One has proof and the other does not. Logic and reason should underpin everything we do. If we can prove that our sexual behaviour is logical then our sexuality is logical. If homosexual people cannot prove that then they are unequal in terms of sexuality to that extent and it is a large extent.

What strange cognitive processes homophobes apparently have. For examples of logic and reason being absent, one only has to read the scrambled efforts of keith, KMB or phanto as they try to justify discrimination against homosexual couples.

Woufe is quite correct - goodnight, Gracie. The show's over, no more entertainment here. I hope I'm around to watch the homophobes rant and squirm when gay marriage is inevitably legalised.

CJ

I'm sure you will live to see marriage as a choice for all people, not just those who happened to be born heterosexual.

au revoir

Homosexual relationships will never be the equal of heterosexual relationships because they are not inherently procreative and never will be.
If SS"M" is ever codified into law it will merely be another transgression against natural law.
Law is not an arbiter of what is right and wrong.
History is replete with bad laws.
You can change man-made law but you can't change natural law.
Suffer the children.

Jeez CJ

I wondered how long it would take for the oponents of my proposal to sink to the level of hetrophobic abuse. Didn't take long at all did it?

I'll let you win the abuse 'stakes' and I'll settle for your latent acknowledgement your arguments are complete rubbish.

Woulfe

You don't mind us talking about procreation ... do you?

Fractelle

Oh you just don't get it do you?

Why not good night Gavie? Are you blokes latently sexist ... as well?