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Obama honeymoon still hearts and roses? : Comments

By Margaret Ann Williams, published 3/4/2009

Barack Obama: graceful, thin, refined, polite, mixed-race, intelligent, thoughtful, lovely family, did I say thin? What party-pooper could complain?

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Interesting and well-written article.

However I think by concentrating on Obama's personality, the author by-passes the real underlying issues facing him and us. The fact is, it doesn't matter what Obama's personality is: he is not magic. Far from changing, he is just more of the same. More imperial war ventures, more printing of money, more bailouts for billionaires, more 'war on' this that and the other, more government grasping, more planned chaos by government taking over any and every decision in society.

I think it is truly sickening to see young children indoctrinated into adoring a political leader whose main claim to fame is that he controls a vast machine of killing, looting and forced indoctrination.

Real change means more freedom, not more welfare/warfare state: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026167.html
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Friday, 3 April 2009 8:56:17 PM
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Jardine is right.Obama is just a puppet of the Corporate power brokers,primarily the Federal Reserve Banks who unbeknownst,to most people are private cartell manipulating this whole debacle to their advantage.

Obama said he would repeal the Patriot Act,instead have endorsed it.Obama was to bring home the troops but has done the reverse.Obama will not support Congressman Ron Paul's Bill HR 1207 to Audit the Fed Res which has bled the country dry.55 fellow congressmen currently support the Bill.

Kevin Rudd,Gordon Brown and Barack Obama will send the planet into hyper-inflation.The cure will be worse than the disease.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 4 April 2009 7:14:09 AM
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*Far from changing, he is just more of the same*

Actually not so, but the less enlightened might not yet be
aware of it.

I am extremely amused that he has the conservative end of
America, shaking in their boots with worry :)

Obama can think outside the square and that matters. At
the G20 he jokingly bowed to the Saudi Arabian King,
everyone had huge smiles on their faces, yet the conservative
old farts in the US were outraged! The man has people skills,
face it.

Next Michelle plants an organic veggie patch in the White
House garden, again the conservatives are outraged.

What a welcome breath of fresh air!

Arjay, I remind you that it was George Bush and the conservatives,
who drove the US economy into a ditch. Obama was left with
the job of hiring the tow truck, to drag it out. There were
two options, full steam ahead or leave it to sink in the ditch.
The latter meant disaster for sure, the former has a chance of
working. So its a chance worth taking
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 4 April 2009 10:03:55 PM
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Yabby ,you still don't get. Both the Democrats and the Republicans bar people like Ron Paul,do the bidding of the US Federal Reserve. The US political process has been totally corrupted. They are not far away form being a totalitarian Govt like China.The Patriot Act that allows the president to declare marshall law on a whim ,must be repealled.

We are bringing in draconian laws here like banning bikers who we percieve to have criminal intent.The laws are enough but they do not enforce them.Judges won't give real sentences.

see http://www.larsonsworld.com/library/articles/tschauf_fedres.html
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 5 April 2009 9:22:22 AM
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Arjay, you are free to believe your conspiracy theories about the
Fed Reserve if you wish. I agree to disagree. I gave you the
Widkipedia link explaining why the Fed was set up, how it works
and how profits go back to the US treasury. Clearly the US public
are happy with this system and so are most politicians.

But believe whatever you will.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 5 April 2009 10:42:30 AM
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Yabby no conspiracy here.It is a present day reality.This has been a system that have evolved over a long period of time.The power brokers are those with the most money and no one has as much as the Reserve Banking System.Follow the money trail and use your logic.Study your history.

Only the small secrets need to be hidden,since the really big ones are repressed by your incredulity.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 5 April 2009 2:41:31 PM
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Arjay, I have no need to follow any conspiracy theory trails,
for the Fed comes under the rules of Congress. If these hundreds
of members and their hundreds of millions of electors are all being
duped as you claim, I am sure that they will wake up one day or
that far more likely, you, like many other conspiracy theorists,
have your wires crossed.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/3616/flaherty7.html

answers many questions, for many don't understand the system.

The Fed operates not so differently to our RBA, the point being
that one wants a Central Bank which is at arms length from politicians.
In the US they have simply contracted out the job
to private enterprise, as their distrust of Govt is larger then
ours. If that is a good thing or a bad thing, is debatable.

The worst accusation against the Fed that I have read is that
they pay interest of 6% to member banks who deposit money there.
Well duh, if our banks deposit money with the RBA, they too are
paid interest, only IIRC it varies, unlike the US fixed rate.

Annual profits from the Fed are paid back to the treasury, annual
profits from the RBA are paid back to the treasury.

Should the Fed or RBA paying interest be seen as a scandal?
Absolutaly not, for it is a bankers bank after all.

So what is your problem?
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 5 April 2009 10:37:44 PM
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What can we say about Obama?
He probably didn’t write his “autobiography” Dreams From My Father.
It was likely written by his friend, former Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers, although Obama denied their relationship when it was impacting on his presidential candidacy.
He attended Rev Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years but never heard any of the reverend’s racist anti-american rants. This relationship also ended when it began impacting on his presidential candidacy.
He did a deal with crime-boss Tony Rezko’s wife whereby she paid full price for a block of land and he paid a discounted price for the neighbouring piece of land with the mansion (now his home) on it. The owner wouldn’t split the two parcels and he couldn’t afford both bits of land, but he denies being involved in any way with Rezko or his wife. It was just a happy coincidence.
He possibly is constitutionally disbarred from the presidency based on his birth place but he refuses to reveal his original birth certificate to prove his eligibility.
He supports infanticide, voting against the Illinois Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times. This contrasts with the 130 times that he voted present because he couldn’t manage a yes or no vote.
His election to office was made possible largely by 96% of the black vote who voted for him on the basis of best person for the job and not because of race colour or creed (compared to 43% of the non-black vote). Imagine if 96% of whites had voted for McCain. Now that would have been racist.
He claims Islam has helped to form the USA and he wasn’t talking about the New York City skyline.
He has no relevant experience.
He is likely a pathological narcissist.
He wants to disarm America's nuclear weaponry as an example for other countries (think North Korea) to follow.
Apart from the above he’s the ideal candidate to steer the USA and the global economy.
There can be little doubt that "He's gonna change the world".
Posted by KMB, Thursday, 9 April 2009 8:39:37 PM
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