Rather than making it worse with our nasty rhetoric, surely us Christians can force ourselves to tone down a bit towards the Musims.

Rather than reminding them how much males and females get on in the West owing to the niceness of our Christian religion, it is a fact that many of our laws stem from Hellenistic folklore rather than from Christian teachings.

Furthermore, it has been said that the gentleness and compassion of Christianity was really only first
expressed by the young Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount, much of it lost when the Roman emperor Constantine took over during the Eighth Century.

It has been said by modern philosophers in fact, that the miracle of modern sport might be one way of developing fairness among the Muslims, as it has among ourselves.

It is certainly on the sporting field where apologies are part of the game, with none of us Westerners declaring
that it was us who invented most of the sports we now play.

Finally, a bit of vocally Sharing the Blame between us and Islamics would do more good than harm, also.

Cheers, BB.

SJF, that's not what the pope said at all.

And Pericles states "this clearly delivers the message that Sharia.....women stoned to death is now incorporated into British Law, with the full sanction of the UN". Not if you also read the line "in matters of divorce, finances and domestic violence" it doesn't.

It is not unreasonable to argue that all citizens in a nation are subject to the same laws, and that justice is delivered on this basis. It's a shame that the author did not stick to this line of argument. A good case can be made for the rejection of SL in Britain on this point alone. As Irfan points out whose version Of Sharia are we talking about?

So,the English have been trying to commit cultural suicide for years?
As an Australian of Irish origins(140 years back)I say ,good luck with that you pommy scum.

Australia has some pretence at being a secular democracy.There is no place for sharia law in this country or any other form of religious idiocy.

To moslems,or any other form of immigrant vermin, I have a little advice - shut up, fit in, or clear out - preferably the latter.

It is true that many more women today barely resemble women today,using the image of the past. They drink swear drug-up dress to tease and express a blatant sexual power and profane the image of woman as it existed.
This is abhorrent to many and much regretted BUT it is an outcome that has been created out of the secular freedom of our democracies and that is more important than preserving any feminine inage men would like to have preserved.It is really a matter of letting women decide what they want to do with their bodies and spiritualities, how to use their freedoms and how to fulfil themselves.
As a man yes, I do think they have gone too far but they arent made to serve me or males like me so we need to get a life and get on with it. Women might regret the way we men have developed i our exploitive or condescending ways and our cravings to dominate and control them.
Let's be quite fair about it.
As for what Muslims may think about it .... wel, they havent yet got to thinking about it. Thinking about it doesnt sit easy with them.
They say Muslim women love it that way. Bully for them, I say. Who is a slave who loves his slavery? No longer a slave.

socratease

In the last part of last year there appeared an article in OLO by Keysar Trad, titled 'In Defence of Muslims' dated friday 28-11-08
This is the link

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=8216

This relates to an article in the Age newspaper about a report, commissioned by our government, by the Vistorian Islamic Womens Council.

The Age article quotes some extracts from the report which states that some Islamic women are having problems after our Family Court has granted them a divorce. The former husbands are turning up at the womens home and demanding husbands sexual rights, as they are not divorced according to their religion. Sorry, I do not have a link to the Age article.

Kateo was one poster that contributed some usefull information about the report.

The Government still has that report and has yet to release it or make comment about it.

It is important as it may show how some muslims view and act in relation to Islamic law and our law, in our society.

I will make inquiries, via my local MP, in regards to when the report will be released.

Ban all the religions.
Oh and somebody ban runner :P