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Human rights and religious exceptionalism : Comments

By Ian Robinson, published 9/2/2009

While laws against racial intolerance are justifiable, laws against disparagement of religion are unacceptable in a free society.

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You appear to be asking religion to play fair.
They will not. It is time to fight back as we cannot afford the "special treatment" and "some are more equal than others" philosophy that has pervaded the power elites lately.
Like all primitive beliefs religion will use animal tactics. Consistency, logic and fairness are not among them. They will continue to band together and hide their corruptive influence on government. They will continue to skulk around in the shadows: stacking committees, undermining democracy as they go. Honest, transparent argument is the enemy the forces of "faith". They want unconditional surrender of rationality and evidence based laws and teachings.
Look at the lies peddled in the name of creationism! They deny known facts, rewrite history and simply lie about things that they should know better about. Rather then an honest search for truth they simply attack using all the dodgy rhetorical devices in the book.
Why are so many preachers revealed as gross hypocrites? Because that's the game they are in. Tricking people. Most people eventually discover that the certainty displayed by preachers is an act: fake it 'till you make it.
Time and time again the church is shown to be morally corrupt: harboring paedophiles is just one example.
They provide no leadership: Aids in Africa has exploded because they lie about condoms. GW Bush said God told him to bomb thousands of innocent civilians and allow the CIA to kidnap and torture world wide. Where was the condemnation from churches...nowhere because he was "their man". Now *that* is morally bankrupt.
Where is the so-called moral guidance that religion is supposed to provide? In the real world religion seems to be more about having reasons to hate others, it is certainly not a vehicle for bridging differences or negotiation.
Wisdom requires a lot of work and knowledge requires lots of real-world experience. Religion provides a soothing faux-wisdom that belongs in the fields of dark-ages Europe. It has *no* place in modern society.
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Posted by Ozandy, Monday, 9 February 2009 10:36:55 AM
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Oh, All very commenable, but I think our school children have enough to do without adding their workload. I think most people make up their minds about religion at university ages - ie Tony Blair.
It is also about time the truth about Islam was told rather than the PC version. Try this link - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/696408/posts.
Posted by Sparkyq, Monday, 9 February 2009 10:39:50 AM
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Ian
You never mentioned Taxes. If someone wants to follow a religion that is their choice, but I see no reason why the ATO should treat the orgnaisations they belong to any differntly to you or I. You mention Scientology and the Exclusive Brethern. If they (and the Christian churches etc.) paid taxes how much extra income would this generate, or the other way around, how much would my tax drop by?
The none payment of Taxes by religious organisations is a real form of reverse religiious discimination. I am discriminated against because I do not want to be part of a religion.
Also remember All Capone came undone because of taxes. The payment of taxes would provide a degree of accountability to religions. At the moment religious organisations can operate behind closed doors with no accoountability. Not a healthy situation.
Posted by Daviy, Monday, 9 February 2009 10:48:31 AM
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Just listen to the self righteous 'rationalist' who fail to see the bigotry of their own belief. Unfortunately their voices are getting louder as they promote their own style of warped morality with no basis except their own corrupt minds. The champion of 'human rights' the UN is probably as corrupt as the Catholic church has ever been. When are these blinded priests of secular humanism ever going to see that their form of morality is flawed. The only way people get treated with respect and dignity is when we all realise that we are in the same predicament (dumb and corrupt compared to our Creator and His Word). When the hearts of men are changed from bigotry then actions follow. Trying to bludgeon people into the acceptance of perverted behaviour is actually the opposite to treating people with dignity. Thank God I will never accept this warped rubbish. Prison is a better option than being hoodwinked into such self righteous morality.
Posted by runner, Monday, 9 February 2009 11:34:15 AM
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Religious cults only exist for the rather of power and riches, there is no reason way our ATO should help them in this endeavour. They also complete against free enterprise for government contracts. The tax exemption should be abolished
Posted by Kenny, Monday, 9 February 2009 11:40:05 AM
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Daviy,

Churches don't pay tax, not because the government is being nice. But because if the government required taxes to be paid, Christians would simply start an opposing society of their own. Remember, religion is much more important to believers than the government - you should know how this power structure works by now!
Posted by TRUTHNOW78, Monday, 9 February 2009 11:49:03 AM
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