I hear the plea for rain in South Australia. As the State that first abolished Christianity, in 1927, I am minded of the first sentence in the Book of Ruth. Now it came to pass in the days when judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land. I heard such a plea from the Late Sir Joh, in Queensland and a call for State wide prayer. It rained. Hillsong Church had a mega prayer night, when the dams were down to 38% and we were flat out getting out of Sydney by air, for storms and rain. Obama would be the last to claim he is Jesus Christ. He did however go to an Episcoplian Church, ( read Anglican) and bend his knee before the Lord, before he took on what will probably be the most onerous task in the world.

Following the Book of Ruth, is the Book of Samuel, who became a Just Judge for forty years. The Book of Ruth does not say the drought broke, but it comes directly after the Book of Judges and there was grain for her to glean, from a successful harvest. The book of Judges is about the preservation of the twelve tribes of Israel. Twelve is the number settled upon for a jury. Israel is the name given by Almighty God to Jacob, after a wrestling match in the dark, and means man of God. Twelve men or women of God, called together under Oath, So help me God, can call down the blessing of Almighty God on a “court” and deliver justice. In Ephesians 2:12 in the King James Version it says: That at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel….

The trials and tribulations visited upon the Jews, and by the Jews on others were supposed to end with Jesus Christ. The war between good and evil continues. As a country constituted under a Christian Constitution Australia should be blessed. The appointment of Judges to rule, and be Gods representative is pagan. By their fruits (rains) shall they be known.

Col Rouge,

You said, "I thought he was less like
Jesus but does do a good impression of
Al Jolson."

That's interesting, Jewish entertainers put
on a blackface because both groups felt a
deep woe, had suffered at the hands of
oppressors, and lived close to their pain.
Many of the new songs of that time hailed the
brighter day and the aggressiveness necessary
to live in the new land, but the singers invested
the black face with a plaintive note, which kept
them in touch with their past though with the
pain once removed, hidden behind a black face.

Thank You for your astute observation Sir.

Obama's a weakling.

And that will become clearer by the day.

The real contest will not be about issues but about whether he's led by the nose by Michelle, Rhamm, Nancy or Harry.

SJF, I appreciate your interest in what I wrote of Noam Chomsky.

Nevertheless, I must take issue with what you have written.

Yes, I concede that Chomsky is an appealing and seemingly likeable person and Zwicker, himself, readily acknowledges that, but you need to look beyond the appearance and examine the substance.

SJF wrote, "He's stuck his neck out so many times over the course of his amazing career ..."

No, he hasn't. He has lived a comfortable sheltered life and avoided posing any real challenge to the US corporate elite and he has gone out of his way to undermine others who have.

The people who have really stuck their necks out are the likes of the late Barry Jennings and Ellen Mariani.

Barry Jennings mysteriously died of a heart attack in August 2008 after he confided in others that he feared for his job and safety because he had spoken of explosions and other mysterious occurrences in WTC 7 the third tower to collapse on the day.

Ellen Mariani, whose husband Neil boarded the doomed flight 175 which crashed into the South Tower (or so we are told), the second tower to be hit, demanded real answers from the Government on that very day and, as a consequence, she suffered bullying harassment from the Government. Only four days later on 15 September while she was at her youngest daughter's wedding, obviously still trying to cope with the loss of her beloved husband, a helicopter hovered over her head and wouldn't leave. She said thought she was going to die on that day.

I urge you to hear and see Ellen Mariani herself at http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=20GGyDWAF4M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRBOUildaJE and ask why a man you hold in such high regard as Chomsky would stoop to labelling people like Ellen Mariani 'conspiracy nuts'.

I also urge you to consider carefully the evidence against Chomsky with included video and broadcasts on these pages:

"Sacred Cow Noam Chomsky gored by Barrie Zwicker" at http://ningens-blog.blogspot.com/2006/12/sacred-cow-noam-chomsky-gored-by-barry.html
"Noam Chomsky And The Gatekeepers Of The Left" at http://thefilter.ca/articles/indoctrination/noam-chomsky-and-the-gatekeepers-of-the-left/
"The Shame of Noam Chomsky & left gatekeepers: Zwicker" at http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=BhrZ57XxYJU

Runner wrote;

Your arrogance and deliberate misrepresenting of Christ confirms exactly what I have said about you.

Dear Runner,

Not sharing your superstition makes me arrogant? I attack your superstition but not you. I would appreciate the same courtesy.

I have not misrepresented Jesus in the least. He made bigoted and self-centred statements. I just cited the statements exactly as recorded in the Bible.

Oh, we all are creatures of sin and corruption. Religion-inspired neurotic guilt!

Trav wrote:

However, would you like to provide some kind of evidence or backing to this statement that Jesus is myth?

It is difficult to prove to a person gripped by delusion that they are deluded. It would be difficult to argue with a follower of the ancient Roman gods that Venus and Mars did not exist. However, there is evidence that Jesus is myth. One bit of evidence is that his narrative has similarities with the narratives of other humanoid gods. It seems obvious that the Jesus myth incorporates myths popular at the time.

The following is from Edward Carpenter’s “Origin of Christian and Pagan Beliefs:

At the time of the life or recorded appearance of Jesus of Nazareth, and for some centuries before, the Mediterranean and neighboring world had been the scene of a vast number of pagan creeds and rituals. There were Temples without end dedicated to gods like Apollo or Dionysus among the Greeks, Hercules among the Romans, Mithra among the Persians, Adonis and Attis in Syria and Phrygia, Osiris and Isis and Horus in Egypt, Baal and Astarte among the Babylonians and Carthaginians, and so forth.

Societies, large or small, united believers and the devout in the service or ceremonials connected with their respective deities, and in the creeds which they confessed concerning these deities. And an extraordinarily interesting fact, for us, is that notwithstanding great geographical distances and racial differences between the adherents of these various cults, as well as differences in the details of their services, the general outlines of their creeds and ceremonials were—if not identical--so markedly similar as we find them.

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I cannot of course go at length into these different cults, but I may say roughly that of all or nearly all the deities above-mentioned it was said and believed that:

(1) They were born on or very near our Christmas Day.

(2) They were born of a Virgin-Mother.

(3) And in a Cave or Underground Chamber.

(4) They led a life of toil for Mankind.

(5) And were called by the names of Light-bringer, Healer, Mediator, Savior, Deliverer.

(6) They were however vanquished by the Powers of Darkness.

(7) And descended into Hell or the Underworld.

(8) They rose again from the dead, and became the pioneers of mankind to the Heavenly world.

(9) They founded Communions of Saints, and Churches into which disciples were received by Baptism.

(10) And they were commemorated by Eucharistic meals.

Let me give a few brief examples.

Mithra was born in a cave, and on the 25th December. (1) He was born of a Virgin. (2) He traveled far and wide as a teacher and illuminator of men. He slew the Bull (symbol of the gross Earth which the sunlight fructifies). His great festivals were the winter solstice and the Spring equinox (Christmas and Easter). He had twelve companions or disciples (the twelve months). He was buried in a tomb, from which however he rose again; and his resurrection was celebrated yearly with great rejoicings.

He was called Savior and Mediator, and sometimes figured as a Lamb; and sacramental feasts in remembrance of him were held by his followers.

You can read more from the book which is available on the net at http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/

BOAZ_David wrote:

I can't resist :) Dear DAvid F....

for one who seem to hold the view that Jesus was 'mythical' you seem to like quoting Him as an authority to support various arguments. :)

Dear BOAZ_David,

I don’t reject wisdom even when it is cloaked in superstition and surrounded by nonsense.

Dear Foxy: You are perceptive, astute, caring and truly vulpine.