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By Stephen Keim, published 15/1/2009Hamas, democratically elected by Palestinians, has been left with no alternative but to use some form of violence against Israel.
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Posted by mac, Thursday, 15 January 2009 3:56:20 PM
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Steven Keim....thought this extract from the Hamas Charter might just be of interest to you.
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim). Please note that the reference is to Jews, not Zionists and not Israelis. Posted by Seneca, Thursday, 15 January 2009 4:22:17 PM
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Dear seneca,
"We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." ("You Gentiles," by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155). Please note Samuels also uses the word "Jews" not "Zionists" or "Israelis." How can there be an end to a conflict when each side sees only their own point of view? Sad, no, tragic really. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 15 January 2009 6:32:48 PM
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How ridiculous to quote from a virtually unknown writer whose equally unknown book was published in 1924 and to compare this with the official charter of the ruling administration in present day Gaza.
Posted by Seneca, Thursday, 15 January 2009 6:57:04 PM
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david f,
the two of us had some disagreements on this OLO in the past (e.g. when apportioning blame for historical wrongdoings) but this time I have to admire you for what you wrote, and feel ashamed for runner, apparently a fellow Christian. Posted by George, Thursday, 15 January 2009 7:06:49 PM
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What a charade this lawyer makes of history and its crystal clear lessons. "Hamas, democratically elected by Palestinians"...can be transliterated to "Hitler, democratically elected by Germans has been left with no alternative but to use SOME FORM ( M.E.) of violence against the world."
People like Stephen Keim are incapable of learning anything from history. http://kotzabasis.createblog.com/blog Posted by Themistocles, Thursday, 15 January 2009 7:39:15 PM
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For a policy of non-violent resistance to have a chance the stronger party must be prepared to concede some legitimacy to its weaker opponent,such as the British in India. A Palestinian "Ghandi" would most likely disappear into the gulag, end his life with an Israeli bullet in his brain or be crushed by a bulldozer. The Palestinians in Gaza have been driven into a ghetto and are being slowly suffocated by their Israeli jailers, I'm not surprised they're getting somewhat angry.
Leigh,
no, there will be no peace in the ME as long as Israeli pursues its policies of expansion and oppression. Stephen Keim states the obvious,Hamas is a creation of Israel.