Australian Macedonian Advisory Council (AMAC)

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Aaaah...WELCOME to the world of...."Australian MultiCulturalism"

Isn't it great when all you have been long saying about 'difference' is in fact underlined, exemplified, illustrated and portrayed in living color before our very eyes by Macedonians and Greeks....who love to hate each other?

MACEDONIAN view:

<<Greece’s constant attempts to destroy Macedonian culture, language, identity and civilisation not only in Aegean Macedonia but also in the Republic of Macedonia, in the EU, the UN and here in Australia.>>

GREEKS view:

<<This is the SECOND person to write an anti-Greece article on this site, yet not one pro-Greek article has been written.>>
and
<<Well, I did not have to go too far into the article to see that the writer is full of vitriol towards Greece.>>

NEWSFLASH to both of you.... THIS IS AUSTRALIA and if you want to bring your historical ethnic squabbles to this country LEAVE!..get BACK TO the countries concerned... fight it out amongst ur selves.. last man standing... go for it.. have fun....but

LEAVE IT out of "THIS" Country ok !

Sadly.. human nature being what it is.. (and thus making humans incompatible with such ridiculous ideas as 'multi' culturalism)

Greeks see Australia through a 'greek' cultural/historical lenz and Macedonians do also through a 'macedonian' one.

And of course..the Vietnamese..the Chinese...the Cambodians....same same.

EDUCATION is the answer. We must actively teach that it is 'UN'australian to being these ethno/historical squabbles here.

AUSTRALIA NEEDS A SENSIBLE POLICY ON.....AUSTRALIA!

If we have to check our opinions/policies at the door of every ETHNIC community organization before we gazzette it...then pity us.

You blokes.. ur both welcome to MIGRATE back to the lands you or your ancestors came from...nick off....shoo...go away... get lost.

OR...

You can decide like the rest of us, that Australia is for Aussies...and we have our OWN identity, which (shock horror) does NOT happen to be Greek or Macedonian OR.."English" or Irish or Scottish.

Contemporary Macedonia never was inhabited by Ancient Macedonians. People who inhabited this theritory were named "paeonians". You can read about them in google using terms like "paeonians macedonia" or "paeonians vardar".
Also here:

http://books.google.com/books?spell=1&hl=bg&as_brr=3&q=paeonians&btnG=%D0%A2%D1%8A%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D0%BA%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B8

Polycarp wrote:

You can decide like the rest of us, that Australia is for Aussies...and we have our OWN identity, which (shock horror) does NOT happen to be Greek or Macedonian OR.."English" or Irish or Scottish.

Dear Polycarp,

Australia has more business taking a position on the squabble between Greeks and Macedonians than it had in invading Turkey during WW1, fighting the Boers in South Africa or being involved in the many conflicts of the British Empire which had absolutely nothing to do with the well-being or interests of Australia or Australians.

I see absolutely nothing wrong in Greeks or Macedonians caring about the fortunes of their compatriots and lobbying the Australian government to take a position on the matter.

You mentioned in a recent post how you demonstrated in favour of Israel. I see nothing wrong in that, but that is no more Australia’s business than the quarrel between Greeks and Macedonians. It was an issue you cared about, and you had as much right to make your views known as those Australians who care about Greece and Macedonia. However, it is inconsistent if you express your views but object to Greeks and Macedonians expressing theirs in another foreign quarrel. Is it ok only to be interested in the foreign conflicts you are interested in?

I am a citizen of both the USA and Australia, am very concerned about what happens in the USA and was very happy at the election of Barack Obama who I voted for by absentee ballot.

I care for Australia and do not care the less because I am still an American. Greeks, Macedonians and others can feel the same about their homelands and Australia.

Unfortunately, many opponents of multiculturalism really resent the fact that Australia no longer gives priority to the interests of the British Empire. Hooray for multiculturalism!

There is one thing I don't understand. Why would anyone want to claim a butcher like Alexander the Great? His idea was apparently to conquer as much of the world as he could and put as many people under his thumb as he could. That makes him a number 1 rotten nogoodnik in my eyes.

With all the great people in that part of the world why claim him? He is somebody to be ashamed of.

David f,

Your point about Alexander is quite pertinent. I would suspect that one reason his legacy was not honoured by the Greek nation (until the late 1980's) was because he was exactly that, a bit if a butcher.

Since then, he has been a tool rather than an ideal in itself. Remember, he is the one of the 'First Macedonians'.

In a visceral sense, Greeks (in the diaspora, especially) feel very vexed having to hear that a person is Macedonian (and therefore NOT Greek). It implies that 35% of the Greek State is 'illegal'.

So Greece continues to use its powers in the EU and the UN to ask for a compromise.

As for your demolition of Polycarp, that was very good.

Again I hark back to this purely political piece of writing by the author. Why did ONO allows such a partisan piece to be entered?

I would suggest that one reason is that the owner's of this site just took on face value the views of the Slav-Macedonian's as being 'honest'. If so, the propaganda by the Slav-Macedonians has been successful.