cont'd:

In fact - Here's an article that men have complained about as being hateful against men. It is sexist and I don't like that (though I like the part about the positive relationship between father and daughter). Read the comments too; plenty of people of both sexes take her to task over it. In any case, it pales against the Jonbenet and other sites and comments. (The link for this came from one of the forum pages on a site posted above).

http://mensnewsdaily.com/glennsacks/2009/01/14/lets-play-whack-a-man/

Finally, I also check comments because it's a relief to see men condemning some of the hateful comments too. Men like that help to remind me that they might be self-regulating. However, there will always be some who will be gobbling up the hatred; believing and perpetuating the lies, and acting on them because they feel justified in doing so.

Pynchme:"That hasn't been the case for women."

So? We're talking about today and today, there are 30+% more women doing undergraduate studies than men. That is not "closing the gap" it is opening a massive gap.

Pynchme:"I can't fathom the level of selfishness that would deny a baby it's greatest comfort and best source of nourishment."

I take it you breastfed all of your children all the time until they stopped wanting to suckle? How very deicated of you. There are several models of breastpumps on the market, some of them quite expensive. They all seem to manage to stay in business. No doubt you think that's due to all those nasty, brutish men wanting to rip the baby from its mother's teat, but you WOULD think that...

Pynchme:"http://www.kidsindistress.org.au/files/Kids-in-Distress-the-politics-of-father-rights-activists.php"

Speaking of hate-sites...

Pynchme:"www.xyonline.net"

You would like that one, because it doesn't have anything to say anout how men actually are and is all about how you'd like to see them. The author has built what passes for a career out of "pro-feminism".

As for the rest, you really did go digging, didn't you? No wonder you took so long to respond; it must have taken you hours just searching. All that and still no Australian examples? I think my point is made, thanks.

CJMorgan:"Yappity yipyipyipyip"

Would somebody let the pomeranian out before it soils the carpet please?

Pynchme, much of the type of material mentioned in the Kids-in-distress website is similar to what is written in "Who Stole Feminism", "Professing Feminism" and "Heterophobia" also "The Sex-change Society"

"Hate propaganda, bogus and statistical inventions overlooked."

I have already posted links to "Manufacturing Research" and "Perceptions are not facts"

So it OK to criticize and alleged that the statistics that are posted on mens websites as being bogus, yet much of the gender driven research has been shown to be extremely bogus, yet get accepted as geniune.

There are a few books on Misandry that I have not read.

I could post links to some feminist sites where men are really denigrated, there was the SCUM (Society for cutting UP Men) manifesto.

The point is that there some very destructive people of both genders.

Antiseptic I didn't have to dig at all; I just followed the links, as I said. Btw parochialism just won't do when we're considering the internet and connections that transcend territorial boundaries.

James the SCUM manifesto - I thought one of you would dredge that up. It was a piece of fiction written in the 60s - a piece of literature made into a movie in the 70s. It actually was a parody and many of the ideas expressed about men were seen by some critics as a mirror of popular views of women at the time (and possibly still though not as widely, nor are they unchallenged beliefs).

Right now; I'd be interested in seeing any site that celebrates the murder of a boy child because he won't grow up to be a man; or anything comparable to the loathing and hatred that is directed at women generally from those sites.

Btw: Cross check the research - that's what I do.

Antiseptic:

Pynchme:"www.xyonline.net"

You would like that one, because it doesn't have anything to say anout how men actually are and is all about how you'd like to see them. The author has built what passes for a career out of "pro-feminism".

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What do you mean it doesn't say anything about how men actually are?

I take it you haven't read anything on it.

At any rate of course it's how men are - it's full of articles written by men. Men who understand what's going on. Just because you don't share their beliefs (or perhaps even know or understand what they're saying) it doesn't make you more of a man than any of them.

You're rejecting their views without even knowing what they are and that's a pity. I wish you would read some of their articles with an open mind and heart.

Pynchme, have you read any of the books that I listed?

They were written by women!

How about "Lying In a Room of One's Own"?
http://www.iwf.org/files/d8dcafa439b9c20386c05f94834460ac.pdf

or

"Women emerge as aggressors in Alberta survey
67% of women questioned say they started severe conflicts"
http://www.franks.org/fr01060.htm

The article at kids in distress applies one standard to men, and another to feminists. One only needs to look at quotes by feminists such as Greer, Dowrkin, MacKinnon ect.

http://www.menshealthaustralia.net/
This site is much better than XY.