Typical Religious crap, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I as a agnostic/atheist don't need to prove something does exist you need to prove that it doesn't.
As for the other Christian posters, referencing your little book doesn't count, it's like reciting lord of the rings as proof there are elves.
Bu the biggest laugh however goes to “under one God”, what a wing nut, never does he think that maybe one of the other religions is the real one.
The stupidity of his statement if you follow Jesus teaching and your wrong it doesn’t matter but if you do you will go to heaven. Does he think there is only one choice? Either you’re not religious or you’re a Christian, is that what he is saying? Does he not know his own religion? Doesn’t he realise his and many other religions teach that to simply believe in God is not good enough, you have to believe the right way and behave in the right manner. How does he know he has picked the right faith?
So even though Christians dumbed down the Jewish rules a bit for getting into heaven, there still are some. That goes for many of the other faiths.

The supernatural lives in the gaps of our understanding and every day those gaps are getting smaller.

kenny quote>>Bu the biggest laugh however goes to“under one God”, what a wing nut,never does he think that maybe one of the other religions is the real one.>>

kenny you presume incorectly[im not a christian]
but the'pot'calling the kettle black continues

>>The stupidity of his statement if you follow Jesus teaching and your wrong it doesn’t matter but if you do you will go to heaven.>>

i think you think that i think jesus is god[your delusion knows no bounds]jesus was man[born of woman]what we see jesus do HE says we will do greater[greater than god my retarded BRR-other?]

>>Does he think there is only one choice?<<

no he does not[jesus was not the first messenger]he came to his own [who knew him not]didnt recognise their own mess-iah[lol]

>>Either you’re not religious or you’re a Christian>>

your presumptions straddle both sides of the fence retard[re-read your second post[your own self/hate is blinding you]yes im NOT religious,no im not an xtian[i love jesus but cant support his followers who elivate him wrongly into'god']

>>Does he not know his own religion?<<

as repeatedly stated im not into'religion'[nor xtian]

>>Doesn’t he realise his and many other religions teach that to simply believe in God is not good enough,>>

as stated im ONLY into god[get it?
im not ANY religion,i JUST believe in god[full stop]

>>you have to believe the right way and behave in the right manner. How does he know he has picked the right faith?>>

there is no right or wrong with god[more will be given]
as jesus said mine fathers house has many rooms[religions]

>>So even though Christians dumbed down the Jewish rules a bit for getting into heaven,there still are some.>>

jesus said LOVE GOD/love neighbour]thats about as simple as it gets

>>That goes for many of the other faiths.<<
jews?please explain[you think jewish is the root belief[how absurd]
abraham wernt no jew[judean isnt jewish either]this'jew'thing was only a relitivly recent invention;research your yiddish root[facts]my retarded other]

The supernatural lives in the gaps of our understanding and every day those gaps are getting smaller

Candide

"So this Paul chap is well educated, well bred, has the tip of his penis removed and was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. How exactly does any of this make him an infallibly reliable witness?"

Posted by Candide, Monday, 22 December 2008 10:38:06 PM

Hilarious - I needed a laugh.

My mother has only a few months (weeks?) left to her life. She still laughs (and cries) just like any normal person. She accepts that her life is not forever and has not suddenly become "all religious" as some do who live in fear.

The suffering will come from those who, like me, loved my mother and we will miss her.

Dear Candide....

interesting question.

It's not so much that Pauls qualifications make him an 'infallible' witness..they just make him a good one. i.e.. He knew what he was on about. You might like to have a serious look at how he develops the condition of mankind and then moves through to the experience of Christ in his letter to the Roman Christians. You will see a remarkable mind at work.

His background, and his astute mind should be taken into consideration when we read his testimony as follows: (in his letter to the Corinthian Christians)

"and last of all he appeared to me also." (1 Cor 15:8)

Fraccy....sorry to hear of your mum's near end of life. I've been through it and as an only child, I assure you.. I do identify and understand all the emotions..

I wonder if you could ask her. "Mum.. do you think about a next life/God...?" Maybe u already know the answers...but if she does show any interest.. why not take the time to read her some comforting passages from a Bible that you have? "I am the resurrection and the life...he/she who believes in me, though he/she die, will yet live"

John 11:25 The whole gospel is found in that one verse.

I read that verse at the funeral of my aunt who died recently to a mixed Protestant/Catholic/Secular audience in a country town.

Take care ..

Polly

As I said above my mother has not suddenly "found religion", because we HAVE talked about it!

For once, stop with proselytising - if you REALLY understand what I and my family are going through you would've displayed more thought and courtesy than you have.

You do so much damage - you really have no idea at all do you?

Kenny, as I was reading your post, I was thinking that yours was one of those rare replies where a response is definitely demanded. As usual then, the problem here is deciding what to reply to, given the word limit. The last comment was a gem, so this is where I'll focus my attention:

"The supernatural lives in the gaps of our understanding and every day those gaps are getting smaller."

Nothing could be further from the truth. I'll give a few brief examples:

- The creation of the universe- 50 years ago, most scientists held that the universe is eternal. Then in 1965 there were some discoveries and the Big Bang theory became the widely accepted theory. Big bang implies ex nihilo creation, or creation from nothing, which lines up with the biblical account, and leaves us scratching our heads.

- The fine tuning of the universe- Discoveries in recent years have shown that the universe is incredibly fine tuned. Over 100 constants exist in this universe, which, if changed even to the smallest degree, would render life impossible and/or the existence of stars or this planet. Basically, over 100 constants need to be extremely finely tuned in this universe for life to even exist. When you remember that this is the only universe, ie: There's no solid evidence for multiple universes, this should blow your mind.

- The resurrection of Jesus- in the 1800's many scholars held theories based on hallucinations and visions, then later psychological research showed that these were implausible.

So, I've given 3 examples here where increased scientific understanding has increased the likelihood of the supernatural. It's been advance in science, not ignorance of science, that's let us to understand the big bang creation event, and the ridiculous improbability of the finely tuned nature of our universe, and which has increased the likelihood of a supernatural explanation for the disciples belief in Jesus' resurrection.