I've got another one.

Q. Why are there so many shelters for battered wives?
A. Because they won't f*&%ing listen!

Oliver: "I think, we men, are very glad there are women and we appreciate their being."

And vice versa, with bells on.

Oliver

I wouldn't even be alive today if not for a few significant men who have selflessly helped me at different times in my life. I really loath stereotyping of anyone and these threads are often vile and pointless.

Except that a few of the jokes are really funny.

"Why does it take 100 million sperm to fertilize one egg?

Because not one will stop and ask for directions."

Veronika & Celivia way to go thanks so much for proving my points. Great stuff meow,spit, hiss.

Boo hoo tissue was feminist#12 male put down I think, don't stop now trot out all the others. This is good.

Got the tissues thanks lol

Having a different opinion to feminists, worth it's weight in gold.

DVD if it makes you feel better

Q How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A Thats not funny!

Q How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A Just One

Q How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A None - feminists can't change a thing

Q How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A 20 - 1 to change it, the rest to make a documentary about it

Q What do the Yeti and a smart feminist have in common?
A You keep hearing about them but you never see any

A radical feminist is getting on a bus when, just in front of her, a man gets up from his seat. She thinks to herself, "Here's another man trying to keep up the customs of a patriarchal society by offering a poor, defenseless woman his seat," and she pushes him back onto the seat.
A few minutes later, the man tries to get up again. She is insulted again and refuses to let him up. Finally, the man says, "Look, lady, you've got to let me get up. I'm two miles past my stop already."

Feminists are OK, I just wouldn't want my sister to marry one

I read a number of blogs while doing some background reading on this topic. Clearly some feminists do have a problem with certain humour, others love it both give and take. Some have written of the difficulty having to watch their words around their more earnest sisters. Others have made the point that jokes are often a good way of dealing with differences.

R0bert

I'm not sure if we've done this one yet:

Q. How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A. Two. One to change it and the other to berate any man who offers to help.

R0bert, thoughtful words. There are feminists who are very humourless and I find it very tiresome. In the 80s, there were feminists who'd make you feel guilty about wearing lipstick, for godsake. I remember a friend of mine once had a go at me for shaving my legs.

But no social movement works through guilt-tripping its own support base. And every social movement, as in every human activity, thrives if it accepts it's own foibles and has the humility to laugh at itself. And there's plenty of feminists who don't buy into the politicisation of humour (which is not related to political humour, by the way).

No one should have the right NOT to be offended.

The test is for men to try some anti-women jokes at work or with customers. Of course such behaviour could land them in hot water through a complaint of sexual harassment.

Sexual harassment:

http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/adb/ll_adb.nsf/pages/adb_harassment

Of course men should be offended by the sort of 'joke' about wife beating related by Veronika. It is intended to further the stereotype of men as violent molesters of women. There are men who are assaulted by women and they find it very hard to get their complaints treated seriously either because stereotypically, women are seen as nurturers, incapable of violence.

There is a gulf of difference between making a joke about the mental rigidity or lack of humour of a feminist and implying that all men violate women.

Celivia and others know very well the effect over time of stereotyping, vilification and hate jokes and it is to their very great discredit that they seek to excuse and make light of the anti-male jokes that are being used to sledge men and boys.

Ethically speaking, if Celivia, Veronika and others believed what they say they would be advocating change to the anti-discrimination laws. After all, if it is acceptable to make certain jokes on OLO and in public, why should a female worker be able to complain about similar comments, jokes and behaviour at work?

I notice that the avowed feminists who make light of their anti-male jokes have not tried to similarly stretch the envelope with gay and ethnic jokes. However this is a very good opportunity for them to demonstrate how gays and ethnics should be as broad shouldered as men in copping some 'good natured' chaffing.

After all, these are 'only' jokes, right? Sure would lighten up the atmosphere to sledge a few Aboriginals, yes? 'I have men (Aboriginal, Muslim etc) friends and this is only a joke' sounds more and more like the excuse of the school bully, not adults who are trying to get along with one another and lessen, not increase, the artificial gender divide.