Romany, your posts have been greatly appreciated. I've now realised why I've received so many adds for enhancement of a particular body part, advertisers are reading far to much into that speding fine I copped in NSW 13 years ago - I really didn't know the speed zone had changed, really I didn't.

Veronika, I don't think it's so much a lame sense of humour but rather missing how much of this stuff does target women and other "protected" groups. It's funny if it's spread around, it's bullying if it continues to single out the same group.

From my perspective the argument is really about how one sided this stuff is. I've seen plenty of it that pokes fun at steroetypes of women, much of it passed onto me by women so I don't consider it as one sided as others do.

Now if the article was about the messages governments fund about the genders I'd be in a different place.

R0bert

All the typical feminist/mangina lame excuses for justifing a basic one sided demeaning & degrading gender bashing of men and boys.

How come society finds male bashing funny and female bashing sexist eh?

Robert: "It's funny if it's spread around, it's bullying if it continues to single out the same group."

I thought stuff was funny if it made you laugh?

I get what you're saying R0bert, but I find the whole argument idiotic. As far as humour goes, nothing is sacred and it's all up for grabs. If people still like Kevin Bloody Wilson, and unbelievably they do, then Kevin Bloody Wilson's material connects with his audience, no matter how unsubtly it rams home its racism and misogyny.

I saw a stand-up routine about a year ago, and the guy started talking about "femo-nazis". The audience became palpably embarrassed for him — not because anyone was offended, but because it's not 1987 anymore and it seemed hopelessly outdated and very not amusing.

Different audiences. He should play to the Kevin Bloody Wilson crowd.

I find those lame emails about as offensive as I do blonde jokes. That is, not at all. And attempts to instruct people about what they should laugh at I find precious and prudish and dull.

I tend to agree with Veronika. Thank you RObert for your evenhandeness and ability to see the issue from all sides.

Let's be honest the emails that go around are spread pretty evenly between the genders. The humour is based on the usual stereotypes that we can all relate to even if sometimes the jokes portray the more extreme version of those stereotypes. Those that suggest that these emails only bag men obviously have some deeper unresolved issues.

It is easy to be blind to the bagging of the opposite sex than towards ourselves - so lets try to keep a realistic view on this.

The Ad about the size of the boy's penis in an effort to reduce reckless driving was I think ill advised. It is true that boys and men suffer from depression in greater numbers than we realise and these sorts of Ads do nothing for fostering feelings of self-worth among boys.

The light hearted bagging of emails is neither here nor there although a closer gender analysis might disagree. Why don't we just accept our differences (real or imagined) and just get along?

This article could have easily been written from another point of view ie. 'The Brotherhood of Women-Baggers".

The response would have been varied depending on the gender of the author.

Pelican said,
"This article could have easily been written from another point of view ie. 'The Brotherhood of Women-Baggers"."

Exactly, I was thinking the same thing after reading the article.

I find most gender jokes quite similar and boring. Women always nag or talk too much, play violins, smell fishy, have too large or too small boobs (equivalent of small penis jokes?), and of course, are terrible drivers...

I've seen TShirts with gender bagging cartoons or slogans, too.

Nothing to be alarmed or frustrated about, they're just jokes.

I have the feeling that these jokes are becoming less popular- people must be getting quite bored with them.

Lately, I've received some scare-mongering emails about Islam and I'm far more concerned about these than about some boring gender jokes.

‘For the sake of a few small laughs, the same women who argue the case for equal rights and opportunities are sustaining a culture of gender-based discrimination.’

No, they are not.

If, by ‘the same women who argue the case for equal rights and opportunities’, the author is referring to feminism, then she is promoting the biggest and most widespread lie ever perpetrated about this movement.

Jokes about men’s supposed stupidity are NOT feminist. They are the very opposite of feminism.

Feminism is a political movement towards gender equality. Jokes about women’s supposed intellectual superiority to men have nothing to do with politics and even less to do with equality. They are perpetrated by the same kinds of one-dimensional minds that create jokes about tits, bums, farts, poo, piss, dumb blonds, mothers-in-law, boongs, chinks, towelheads, abbos, gays, booze and old people’s blocked plumbing.

Genuine feminist humour – like… ‘It starts when you sink in his arms. It ends with your arms in his sink’ – is much more about the folly of women, not men. It ridicules society’s indoctrination of women to overly romanticise men and marriage, and the negative repercussions when that romanticism collides with reality.

Likewise, genuine feminist quips about women needing men ‘like a fish needs a bicycle’/ ‘moose needs a hatrack’ are about cautioning against society’s indoctrination of women to overly depend on men to the detriment of their own personal and professional development.

The feminist movement is NOT, and never has been, about making men look stupid. In perpetrating this myth, the author is not only betraying her own ignorance, but also the tragedy of a generation that has become the victims of two decades of gender wars disinformation.