Three cheers again OUG! Indivisible!

I shouldn't prod the SA guys too much - part of their hearts and part of their heads are in the right place. The rest is mysterious: are they really pushing truly "socialist", social-democratic, anarcho-syndicalist, libertarian socialist, or just green-feudalist society? Going by rougey's predictably Malthusian filth and its reptilian eugenics poison, I'd say the last few ideologies seem more apt to describe this latest SA contribution. I avoid playing any historical-ideological pun on "SA" itself; suffice to say that they'd need an "SS" to enforce their draconian green vision.

This planet can support all its people in comfort and technological sophistication, provided it lets its free-trade schysters go bankrupt (or to prison) and reverts to popular state sovereignty taking care of its people. Protectionism, state-controlled capital and credit, international regulation of trade on sound "other's benefit" legal principle. All to realize humanity's potential.

Carbon dioxide's good too, always has been - helps the plants, forests and agriculture. We need more. And the imperialist free-trade parasites want instead a "carbon trading system" or fart taxes, all to create another fictitious and disastrous monetarist bubble to keep their dysfunctional rubbish alive!

The article itself is basically a load of nonsense. Little Brother and Col Rouge have got to the nub of the problem. The workers are the ones who are basically to blame for the situation in which we find ourselves. They are the ones who have been spending on their credit cards like there is no tomorrow and they are the ones who are largely responsible for the huge increase in the population in the past fifty years. Until both these problems are addressed, we will continue on the road to oblivion, the rest will have a negligible effect on our ultimate survival.

David

So there you have it Liz. These are the sorts of critters that the Green dogma encourages: eugenicist, degenerate snobs, with very limited cognitive abilities. Often these creepies try to cover their intellectual shallowness with glib provocation, just to seem clever and in charge. Consider the bizarre situation: QUADRILLIONS of a debt black hole ignored continually among these smug free-trade pundits. That's no "elephant in the room"; it's the Death Star.

Fascism's their secret fetish, and the only logical political conclusion to the binary and limited thought processes in monetarism and AGW/IPCC-stamped environmentalism. Therefore, snap out of such blinkered and hopeless misanthropic determinism, and the lies that drive it!

Btw, your initial assertion is absurd: "It is possible that capitalism can spend its way out of a planetary meltdown". The spending - just like the bail outs - is a sure recipe for hyperinflation. It's a no-brainer, but further proof that the head shed lacks brains as well as lacking guts.

vk3auu[quote]..>>The workers are the ones who are basically to blame for the situation in which we find ourselves...>>

that is so much nonsense;ge is the largest credit card supplier,its reportedly doing just fine

we have seen big buisness debt double and tripple[because of the absurd ammount of buyouts the multunationals conduct]
credit swaps have added to the problem

debt swaps have swamped the system[selling my loss for your unrecoverable LOSS is a sale both ways apparently

securitising big buisness debt is not fault free either;their credit card debt is more than offset by their COMPULSORY super DEDUCTIONS bankers securitised into worthless paper

defaults for credit cards are short of 3 percent[of a tiny pool owed by many]big buisness debt is unable to be announced,because not only dont the regulators know where it is [many of the bankers claim not to know either]

that being my minour adjustment,i conquere with the rest[but not its accorded cause]

>>..They are the ones who have been spending on their creditcards like there is no tomorrow..>>

next we move into murdering all the poor people?
WHY?

>>.. and they are the ones who are largely responsible for the huge increase in the population in the past fifty years.Until both these problems are addressed,we will continue on the road to oblivion..>>

road to oblivion?bro someone has been lying to you,you know russia will be a bread basket for the world or africa,there are people out there think only they got a right to live[these selfish people are retards,accepting lies as an excuse to hate others]

which races we begin with bro?capitalists?let the poor eat the rich?

once they wake up to you lot genociding them[making them sterile, pumping mind numbing mercury into their mouths,their'vacines'and medicines,i cant wait till you nutters start killing each other because your genes are deemed'bad'

>.. the rest will have a negligible effect on our ultimate survival...>>

our deaths is YOUR delusion
grow up you retarded EUgeneCYSTS

think;who next?

when you lie down with those who kill,how safe you think you will be at the next CULL?

One under god is speaking absolute gobidlegook. I cant understand his mindless postings.

For goodness sake, when are we all going to focus on the positives! We live in a very fortunate country. That is the bottom line.

All of us can make a difference by spending time giving back to our community and find some peace. One Under God, i suggest you seek some therapy.

Truly, some of these posts on this topic are speaking such intellectual diatribe - i cant understand clearly the points you are trying to make.

Can you keep it a bit more simpler with a few positive actions please? Its not all doom and gloom. I mean, whats the worst that can happen?

The Workers are to blame?
They must be the same Workers who were convinced by the politicians and the media that the good times were here to stay and that they had all mysteriously become richer.
Buy a couple of houses or borrow for some shares now or miss out on the never-ending boom.
Borrow now and you can retire in just five years and live off your investments.
Everybody's doing it - there are entire TV shows dedicated to this strategy.
Need cash? Just use the ever-increasing value of your house as your own personal ATM or apply for a few more credit cards - it's easy!
Reverse mortgages - now that's a great idea. Now those retired pensioners can live the good life too.

Yes the Workers probably are to blame for believing all that spin and being blinded by their own greed.

Never mind those who actually created and used the spin for the same reason. They'll be back again for the next boom-bust cycle.

Unfortunately they've dragged everybody else down with them.