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Clive Hamilton the Net Nanny : Comments

By Kerry Miller, published 24/11/2008

Christian Right follows Clive Hamilton's lessons in their push for Internet censorship.

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Trying to pin this on Hamilton misses the point. The article describes the way the theory and writings translated to political acceptance...and that falls squarley in the lap of religious lobbyists (as the article indicates no less).

Do not mistake academic writings for power. There are many who write theory yet are ignored. he may privately entertain religious sensibilities or reasons to view them as allies (autralia institute patrons anyone?). Has the question ever been asked if he has possible affections for moral (likely religious) authority.

But it's the religious who have adopted this agenda and used it for government purposes, again as the article describes (see Family First and the history of Senator Brian Harradine and his advisor Melinda Tankard Reist-a contributor of OLO, who hides her religious Catholicism under a feminist guise).

I do not like the way this author dismisses the essential religious component. Without them Hamilton's essays would be nothing and ignored (though he is employed by the euphimistic Australia Institute** *), particularly in light of his earlier writings.

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** * Look at this gem, for example:
The Australia Institute was sued by David Jones for allegedly engaging in misleading and deceptive conduct: David Jones Ltd v The Australia Institute Ltd [2007] FCA 962. David Jones objected to a media release by the Australia Institute entitled "Corporate paedophilia – Sexualising children by advertising and marketing".
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I find it interesting (and not necessarily coincidental) that Clive Hamilton has been appointed Vice Chancellor at Charles Sturt University, which has many, many Christian connections.
Posted by Steel, Monday, 24 November 2008 10:31:05 PM
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And as for the secularists who believe Clive Hamilton's writings about the "sexualisation of children"...

Let me remind or warn people again of the example of Melinda Tankard Reist, publishing articles and hosting an Australian Women's forum, a self-described feminist with all the euphemistic phrases that earn numerous points amongst elite types who hang off their words like they are prophets (one feminist here on OLO described feminism as a Church) - ...that, MTR was actually likely to be a staunch Catholic as she was an advisor to the Catholic Senator Brian Harradine of Tasmania, who speaheaded many campaigns of censorship and was unrepentantly against pornography and other "sins".

Is Hamilton one of these types of activists? My initial impression of Hamilton is contained in my prior post and it certainly seems as though there are several strong properties. One of them it seems is that he has very traditional views of the government-people relationship, with people being mere pawns or servants to the government. He doesn't seem to have any respect for Australians as a free thinking people.
Posted by Steel, Monday, 24 November 2008 10:56:34 PM
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Off topic everyone, sorry.

To: IanC

Can you be more lucid ... what exactly are you trying to say that is pertinent to this topic? I’m not going back to that thread you linked to Ian, so I may as well cut-n-paste here:

“The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality.

Denial is a defence mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.

You may deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimisation) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference).

Denial of denial: This can be a difficult concept for many people to identify in themselves, but is a major barrier to changing behaviour.

Denial of denial involves thoughts, actions and behaviours which bolster confidence that nothing needs to be changed in one's personal behaviour. This form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion."

Seriously Ian, let go of Clive Hamilton. It's not about you (it's more about people like Bob Carter).
Posted by Q&A, Monday, 24 November 2008 11:39:37 PM
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The problem with Hamilton is that he would like to filter out all obscene material,selected by his standards.
This would mean Climate Audit, Watts Up, Ice cap etc would go because they offend his religious beliefs.
Hamilton has lost, if he ever had it, any tolerance of views that conflict with his.
Posted by Little Brother, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 6:32:21 AM
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Thanks Little Brother. Your post shows why the discussion on this article is, in part, about Clive Hamilton's intolerance of dissent - a regrettable character trait for a person who's just been Australia's first professor of public ethics.

Steel, he's been appointed to a ‘Vice-Chancellor’s Chair’ at Charles Sturt University – he’s not the Vice Chancellor.

Clive says his role is to carry on his work as a public intellectual 'being engaged in social and policy debates.’ I only wish he would
Posted by IanC, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 8:28:33 AM
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Amazing how loud the supporters of the pervert industry are. They just have to have their little bit of indulgence despite it resulting in young boys and girls having their lives ruined. What bunch of selfish little people totally blinded and bound by their own lusts. No wonder the pervert industry is such a thriving market. Thankfully Mr Rudd has the backbone (I hope) to stand against these sick minds.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 9:11:48 AM
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