Spikey “If they did, would Col Rouge put it down to their race, national background or ethnicity?

Since they don't, is Col claiming that's because they are members of "the chosen people"?”

The comment which is the source of Spikey’s dissent is based on common articles in newspapers and actual fact.

We have become used, in Melbourne at least to hearing about ethnic gangs of youths where Samoan’s battle with Somalian’s for gang control of railway stations.

Ask the police in Dandenong about it.

Similarly a gang of Lebanese youths were recently convicted of a series of rape attacks on Australian girls and their Imams regularly spout on about uncovered meat and other offensive and what amount to bigoted attitudes.

Asian gangs attacking people with swords, causing serious and permanent injuries.

Attiudes of an over developed sense of self-entitlement engendered by the sort of people who think they can just turn up in a boat and demand asylum because they want it and then sign up on the dole and expect this society to fund their polygamous breeding habits.

My personal view is anyone who is an immigrant and breaks the law, seriously to go to prison, should be deported upon the conclusion of their sentence, no debate, no second chances, like the habitual burglar who, a couple of years ago, ended up back in Serbia.

Better these purveyors of violence and dishonesty, who disrespect our Australian values are shot or blown up as a consequence of being deported back to the environment that spawned them, than they should be free to gratify their heinous and cowardly desires on decent citizens of this country.

Now Spikey, got anymore of your gratuitous comments you want to share, take another swipe, I am happy to respond to any of your mediocre summations and asides

Col Rouge,

I like you deportation idea. Spikey is one of the self-haters whom I refuse to acknowledge because he posts utter rubbish. I undertook not to upset him any more after his last spray, but he still thinks I am interested in his opinions of my opinions. I have added Romany to the list along with CJ Moron (I hope I'm not breaching your copyright on Moron).

These three spend most of their time criticising people with whom they disagree, rather than expressing their own opinions first. I know, as I'm sure you do, that many people on OLO disagree with us and I have no problem with that. But when they start name-calling, instead of just sharing their views - which is all they have to do to express disagreement - I'm perfectly capable of throwing a few names about, too.

Some among us might have cracked onto the fact that Mr. Right has been around for a long time under a previous moniker. I changed identities, with Graham's OK, to make a fresh start: I was falling into the traps set by these nitwits and their name-calling and foolishly responding in kind.

What I find incredible is that anyone who is against allowing illegal entrants to even set foot on our soil; who believes that we now have too many people here for the good of the country, must be ‘heartless’,’ lacking in compassion’, ‘immature’, (in my case, even though I was born during WW11, and grew up during large intakes of immigrants who worked on the Snowy Mountains and other projects where they were needed, including my own part of the country), and even downright ‘bad’, ‘nasty’ or a ‘white supremacists’.

My ‘new start’ attempt clearly didn’t work; I don’t have Col Rouge’s patience in dealing with nincompoops. I might even be enabling them by reacting to what is really their vile, unfair baiting.

My ‘new’ new start is: no more engaging with other posters for me. There really isn’t much point in it anyway

Mr Right,
There are some on OLO that I do not bother to respond to also but I know that when they start name calling they have no more to offer in debate.

There are also others that, even if I generally disagree with them, I respect their right to have their opinion. I do not always agree with what you or Col Rouge say, but do often.

I am very interested in your opinion on all sorts of issues and many times your views have given me reason to look at an issue differently or has increased my knowledge on the matter.

On this particular thread, I have found franklins posts most informative.

Col Rouge,

Ethnic gangs in Melbourne, eh? Are they ever Irish, English or Scots? Maybe Welsh?

"My personal view is anyone who is an immigrant and breaks the law, seriously to go to prison, should be deported upon the conclusion of their sentence, no debate, no second chances..."

But not, I presume, when they are Irish, English, Scots or Welsh? What will we do with Aboriginal gangs? They won't be able to be "deported back to the environment that spawned them".

Mr. Right,

You are 100% wrong with such a basic thing as my gender, so we can't place much store in your other comments. "Spikey is one of the self-haters whom I refuse to acknowledge because he posts utter rubbish."

Well actually, I have great self-esteem. And as for you refusing to acknowledge me, well what sort of contradiction is that when you spend so much energy criticising me?

I see you've changed your name Mr Right. And that you admit it hasn't worked. That much at least you are Right about. The only other thing you're Right about is your political prejudice.

I found Mr Right's comments towards myself quite extraordinary. I'm rather disappointed that remarks like this are left on a forum like this.

Mr Right, my children and my relationship with them is very precious to me. They did not come easily to me. So, the fact that I became a parent at all I view as my biggest responsibility and joy in life.

Romany, thank you. It really stung, only because it was directed at my children and our relationship. All three whom I'm enormously proud of. Mr Right obviously has a very high regard for the youth of today in Australia, considering he credits their peers for undoing my poor influence and becoming contributing young adults.

Other than that, I'm in good company, because you too are the object of his pathetic vitriol. What a sad example he makes.

On this site there are people who we do disagree with. That is the purpose of a forum like this. To examine our beliefs and opinions and to modify or change them.

ColR, wonderful for you that you've never had to make the choice between Australian citizenship and your previous one, by having to give that one up. I actually think that that is the way it should be. A citizenship should be a birth right and many countries view it that way, but not all.

Australia is a country too that allows dual nationality. So, if I'd kept my previous nationality, the irony is that my children would have both: European and Australian nationality.

My comment re children born of immigrants is from an article I read in a couple of newspapers quite a while back extrapolating findings from the last Australian Census. I'm a full time working woman and have not had time to find any links for you.

As to the total number of immigrants this country should take, I agree we should have a discussion on this, but that is a seperate issue to the one we're debating here.

Spikey, or maybe that should be cork-screw (spikey but “twisted”)

“But not, I presume, when they are Irish, English, Scots or Welsh?”

What basis do you have for presuming that?

Having said it you can now direct me to any posting I have ever made which considers the rights and responsibilities of ex GB migrants to Australia as anything different to the rights and responsibilities of anyone from elsewhere in the world.

Maybe I could just quote you “You are 100% wrong ….. so we can't place much store in your other comments. "


In short, your scurrilous assertion toward racism is more likely a projection of your own retarded values than anything I have ever written. I suggest you take your insufferable apologist attitudes and stick them where the sun don’t shine.

In future, you are free to quote me, verbatim, but are never ever free to “presume” anything about me, especially of such a vicious polemic nature but having read other posts by you I doubt whether a limited intellect, such as yours, will ever understand.

Anansi “ColR, wonderful for you that you've never had to make the choice between Australian citizenship and your previous one,”

It is not a problem to me, having worked hard to get here, my loyalty is solely to Australia. Anyone who arrives here with alternate commitment will never make a good migrant or citizen.

“My comment re children born of immigrants is from an article I read in a couple of newspapers quite a while back extrapolating findings from the last Australian Census. I'm a full time working woman and have not had time to find any links for you.”

The internet is a wonderful thing. When I make statements such as yours, I tend to support them with data.
Therefore, in absence of you saying so, I accept you to cannot defend your assertion and relinquish any claim to its veracity.