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Government uploads hypocrisy with internet censorship : Comments

By Antony Loewenstein, published 14/11/2008

Free speech is never absolute but there should be vigorous public debate before any shift in freedom of the internet.

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rstuart

I see that you and CJ are still second to none in your character assassinations. Your dishonesty really knows no bounds. You both know that my comment regarding biblical expression was in the context of what is taught at university. You are still unable to come up with a biblically based course at a secular university. I could just see them allowing Fred Nile to teach theology. I would suggest that you 2 are the dishonest ones. Unless the religion report or compass changed its colours I also doubt whether any bible based teacher would get a run there. I won't hold my breath waiting for you to give a clear answer rather than character assassination
Posted by runner, Monday, 17 November 2008 5:12:59 PM
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runner, I still remember the Roman History courses I took at Macquarie University under the tutelage of the illustrious Professor Edwin Judge, a biblical scholar of international repute and expert on Early Church history. You may find more about Professor Judge here http://www.publicchristianity.org/videos/judgeintro.html

Your claims about secular universities don't stand up to any detailed analysis.
Posted by Johnj, Monday, 17 November 2008 9:33:33 PM
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http://dlibrary.acu.edu.au/research/theology/ejournal/aejt_2/Ford.htm
http://news.csu.edu.au/director/regionalnews/canberra.cfm (Professor Clive Pearson)
http://www.pacifica.org.au/volumes/volume18/issue02 (Martin Sutherland, Elaine Wainwright, Mike Grimshaw)
http://www.stmarksntc.org.au/thl/staff/pdf/CowdellCV.doc
http://www.gordonmoyes.com/2007/06/01/the-delusion-of-dawkins/ (Professor Alister McGrath)
http://www.newcastle.edu.au/faculty-old/education-arts/facultycommittees/CTLOctober/EACTL0631%20B%20Theology%20Business%20Plan.doc
http://www.bct.edu.au/Arche/Authors.htm (David Rankin)

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 17 November 2008 10:11:03 PM
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runner: << You both know that my comment regarding biblical expression was in the context of what is taught at university. You are still unable to come up with a biblically based course at a secular university. >>

I guess they must teach prevarication at the "biblically based" indoctrination course that Christian fundies attend, given the propensity for them to refuse to admit that they tell porkies when they're caught out. There was absolutely nothing in runner's mendacious rant to suggest that he was only referring to course content.

As for "biblically based courses" being offered at universities - you're unlikely to find one because universities are for intelligent people. You'd have to go to a "bible college" or some such Christian madrassa in order to find the kind of mindless indoctrination that you think should be offered at universities.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 6:12:26 AM
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Chade,

Yes we are concerned about the lack of control and laws on the net regarding DEFAMATION.

It is a serious problem and must be addressed.

I am not saying the issues raised by yourself and others are not important as well.

We simply CANT have no laws controlling the net- that includes forums Chade.

As it stands now most times ONE person has the right to either leave up or take down comments that are defamation of either a person or business.

It also places the victim in a position they MUST sue the owner of the net forum etc..

Even then after costly court cases the real offender can simply escape due to privacy laws.

In your case its the people spreading porn that we cant touch.

Be it porn or defamation its all damaging and lowers the standard of our society.

The counter argument of course will be will Governments use these laws for political purposes?
IMOP Of course they will.
Given our organisation has for years written to Government demanding some type of control over the net regarding defamation we cant have our feet in both caps either I guess.

So sadly yes we support it.

Mean time if someone can Ban Viagra adds it would almost be worth it:)

How sad is this world that nothing is private anymore and sex is spread across the net and TV and newspapers.
No wonder why kids today show little respect as our Grand parents and parents did.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 6:51:36 AM
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I might remind some lost souls here that Shakespeare defamed and sexualised with social parody at a time when the filter for such infamy was beheading.

In short: Only those afraid of the TRUTH about who we really are have an interest in censorship beyond existing physical security measures.

Meanwhile, Othello,Iago and Macbeths roam the halls of our parliaments shouting IMMIGRATE FOR THE GREAT GST power god(but SHHH, don't tell). Shylocks and Antonios down at the chamber of commerce run our economy into oblivion with imported drugs & immigrant greed. And all the Lady Macbeths wash off their damned spots and sprog forth cute little carbon footprinted gridlocks & ABC never-learn centres for a freeload baby bonus.
And don't forget King Lear riding his charger from his American castle to tell Australia to stop bludging.

If ever there was a need for unrestrained free speech its NOW!

Let all the poison that lurks in the mud ... Net out!
Posted by KAEP, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 8:17:03 AM
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