Please, Polycarp, don't harp on about Israel's 500 atomic warheads - we still have sympathy for the modern Jews, but a newer better world won't stand for what you are on about.

As I mentioned in the earlier thread, any high school kid knows what a newer better world is all about.

Certainly us Westerners are to blame for Israel's awkward nuclear position in the first place - a position that could easily be the beginning of WW3.

Only pray that Obama can sense such a danger as well. such in mind as well.

Part of such a sense, of course, is that much of the danger was caused by us Westerners refusing to take any blame for the above problems, sheeting it all onto Islam.

Regards, BB, Buntine, WA

clearly any topic needs a cure
so i will try to reveal my vision of the cure

one state [not two state solution]
there are areas that have a dress code
and areas that dont

if muslim holy area then everyone wears the appropriate dress and custum[washing to enter mosque etc]

and for things link the wall everyone wears the correct dress and hat etc
basiclly everyone is dressed according to where they are

to enter the area everyone strips down their other clothing and wears the right [same] form of respectfull dress

policing will be difficult
thus police [army are paired [one from each sect]
each of who deals with their own belief

it cant be hard ,given god is a living loving god
we can give it a go sometime [why not now?]

jesus revealed EMANUEL [meaning GOD WITH US [all]
that we do to the least we do to him
we cover each other's back ]'s on holy days so the holy days of each is peacefull[does islam have a sabbeth?]

regardless this ongoing family fued is absurd
its time the people OF THE RISEN CHRIST mediate peace for the peacemaker[and while this ISNT HIS realm, he just may come for a visit
he just might bring pop[god[good] with him

how come his own know the messiah not?
test us our brother ,

know its about god [emanuel]WITH US
we just need to bring peace to the WHOLE[y] lands

and jesus will reveal there is much better than perpetual war

now we just need xtians to know
what jesus really did reveal about our father

who art owner possesor of the heavens
and did emerge the dust from the deep for all HIS children
[not just one family]

we can never know the all of god
[but through his creation]

I fear the outcome of denial among Jews. We don't hear of the millenia of life within the Pale from anything other than the elite Parisian zionist's derogatory view. There was a lot of romanticist claptrap written around then and it all turned to hell on European civilisation. So why is yiddish still so widely considered degenerate when along with this must go the same view of the lives of all those forebears from the pale. This doesn't bode well for what goes on in the heads of the jewish diaspora. And the wrong of invading and kicking out of the Palestinians justified by the crimes of europeans and the convenience of calling up the romantic scribblers call to arms and the evils of pursuing a utopian socialist emancipation. If zionism served a purpose after the holocaust its time has surely now passed. And the nepotism jews organise within finance, media, education and government will never do anything other than invite ganglike retaliation in any state.