Yabby

Obama only improved marginally on both Gore's and Kerry's efforts. And 'dumb' George ran rings around them.

Obama pledged, like McCain, to accept Public Funding, a Democrat initiative and position. He found he could gain more money and an electrol advantage in another vehicle. He didn't have the courage to stick to his original conviction.

Clearly he has little courage when it really counts.

His lack of Experience is already on display with the appointment of the most partisan member of the US congress as his chief of staff. That will bring the congress together. His first appointment shows he has little experience and is probably being manipulated by Pelosi and the other lefties in Congress already.

Why did you need to raise race in this discussion?

He has had the whole left movement of the US support him and his puerile pantomine.

If the crash is any indication, I'll continue to make heaps while the AUS dollar falls and precious metals improve. My only worry is if the Congress's and Obama's policies causes the US doller to dive. But if that looks as likely as it now seems then there will be plenty of time for me to be able to cash in on that also.

Of course I think obout money. Doesn't everyone. But if you'd had said 'Keith you don't sit around watching your future disappear down the gurggler and you watch what is happening in the world and react.' you'd be right. You do the same don't you?

Read my recent article on the origins of the meltdown. I think you'll decry where I found most responsibility to lie, and without any evidence to support your position...as usual....
Here's the link

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=8053

'I am in the fortunate position of being
able to do the things I want to do in life, rather then the things I have to do.'

Fine but so mundane, and we all have things we have to do. But do you have the courage to truely have and follow a dream?

Keith, your bias is clearly showing through here.

I remind you that Obama won by a far greater margin then George
ever did, credit where credit is due. Of course I mentioned
race, for doing that as a half white man in America, reflects
twice the achievement. He achieved his result despite racism,
which is common as chips in the US, especially in the South.

Argue as much as you like about the blame game of the US financial
calamity, but the facts are plain as day. Bush/Cheney ran the
show for years and had control of both houses for years, they could
have done as they pleased. But Cheney made Govt policiy clear
when he stated that "The US $ is not America's problem but the
rest of the world's problem." As we see, he was correct, so
the world will pay a huge price and America will simply inflate
away its debts by printing notes, as being the default currency,
their debt is in US $. Australia won't get it that easy, we'll
simply have the Australian peso, unless we start to deal with
our current account.

If the US $ dives, you will be able to thank Cheney, for he agrees,
it is your problem, not his problem. That is why the Chinese are
in some ways, over a barrel.

Nope, I don't worry about money and I don't tie my future to
speculation about precious metals. I have spread my risks over
many industries and many companies. I value invest, ie buy things
when they are cheap and seldom sell. Recently I've bought banks
and BHP, as I believe that both will still be around in 10years time,
paying dividends, a bit more or a bit less, whatever.

You might not agree with Obamas judgement of who he is hiring right
now, comments from informed commentators on CNN etc, strongly
disagree with you. Perhaps its you with the flawed judgement, that
is why he is US prez, despite the many odds against him.

Yab: "Odds against him"? Underdog? You are just kidding for the sake of provoking keith right?

The vote on Paulson's heists was the first big chance for Obama to demonstrate some leadership. Instead he just showed how "dictatorship" has been functioning through the western treasuries: he meekly obeyed Soros et al, then even hustled further compliance with the bail outs via other congressmen, with some recourse to that race card along the way!

Obama's hardly hiring anyone in any significant sense. The most important point there is that it's Obama who's hired - by Soros. The difference with that face-stretched Pelosi is that she's on Rohatyn's payroll.

Look Yabby,

Your outlook for the future is much brighter than mine.

I think were are into a depression and Obama's policies as he indicated today will ensure it is deep and protracted.

The stock market is yet to bottom and thinking ten years will see an improvement is an overly optimistic view. Just look at the economic indicators (US), especially in the construction industry and in land development, and the impact from the corruption in the unregulated derivatives market hasn't even hit yet.

I don't understand why you think a falling US $ is a bad thing. It will result in profit for me.

Emanuel his Chief of Staff is the most partisan member of the US senate. His record shows that and that is fact not opinion. CNN are hugely biased toward Obama. Are you blind?

You proved my point again in regard to my article;

'I think you'll decry where I found most responsibility to lie, and without any evidence to support your position...as usual....'

and you did exactly that.

You again put words in my mouth. Where did I use the word 'worry' in my comments about money? I used the word 'think'. You know the more you do that type of thing the more you reveal of yourself.

You know you keep pointing fingers at me for you things you see as 'crimes'. I can point to some that are quite at odds with your stated situation:

'But I guess the truth has been revealed. You are concerned that
Obama could cost you money.' So what? Is it wrong make judgemens so as to protegt my future?

'Keith, your bias is clearly showing through here.' So what? Everyone is entitled to a view even your 'unbiased' one.

'Perhaps its you with the flawed judgement, that
is why he is US prez, despite the many odds against him.' What's this mean? He's president because my judgement is flawed?

This is becoming really really boring.

Yabby

Just in case you hadn't heard on CNN. Obama gave his first news conference today. It was really weird. He was backed by his economic advisers who included the Governor of Michigan. He showed he intended to bail out the US car industry in Michigan. It is the worst run industry in the US and the state that owns it is the leftie and Union dominated bankrupt Michigan. You might note that the US auto industry is wide spread in the US but it is only Michigan where real problems lie.

He also showed he intends to put up taxes but refused to answer questions on the tropic.

He also intends to bailout municipal and state bodies across the US. It astonished me the press didn't ask where the money was coming from ... especially since revenues are falling and the Government debt is in already in the trrrillions. Although apparently he would not take questions from Fox News on that issue.

Oh and there was not one question on what he intended to do about the announced Russian intention of moving its missiles into Eastern European reaches in response to US initiates in Poland?

Mate CNN is ok but they are fawning over OBama, he was their pick, and when you watch them you should take that into account. Just as when you watch Fox you should take into account they are not so inclined. Look for balance mate and don't entirely believe either. Be discerning mate.

Sheeeeesh! And you think my judgement flawed and that things are going to improve under Obama?

Obama won't be doing anything at all for 7 weeks yet the criticism is being piled on. I can't imagine how it will look once he actually passes a law.

Actually I lie. It will look much as it does now. Those who find the election result hard to accept will ignore all indications of good governance and maintain GWB was the bestest ever prez while the new guy remains a pretender.