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The pretend peacemakers : Comments

By Ben-Peter Terpstra, published 7/10/2005

Ben Terpstra argues Hollywood celebrites shouldn't comment on US foreign policy or the war in Iraq.

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I like to think of the good ol' US of A as a cancer on the backside of humanity.
Anybody else out there find the 'WorkChoices' ad at the top of this page insulting?
Posted by Swilkie, Saturday, 15 October 2005 5:49:32 PM
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Swilkie,
When Australia is overun by extremists or suffers a natural catastrophe I'll remind the USA you do not want their cancerous AID.

Can I ask who is going to help you? I suppose Iran?

funkster,
So you ignore the torture and beheadings of USA aid workers and do not condemn people who do such acts and still not brought to justice, above the stupid behaviour of a few prison guards, since brought to justice.

One can only see your lack of allegiance to democracy while ignoring acts of terror against innocent civillians. You said, "Im sure many would say that prisoners in Abu Grave were terrorised."

The prisoners of Abu Grave are not innocent civillians they were weapon carrying combatants. Your hatred of the Greatest Charitable Nation on this Planet you despise. Indicates where your view of democracy lies. You are the enemy! You prefer a totalitarian society where only those that believe and behave like yourself have absolute control. USA is not as any group would like it because it is a democracy society laden with decadent morality; but it represents Western diversity.
Posted by Philo, Saturday, 15 October 2005 6:17:51 PM
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Philo, Remember John Walker Lindh, Americans first heard of him in 2001 as the treacherous California-reared face of the Taliban who'd had a hand in the murder of a CIA man in northern Afghanistan. Months later, when the case went to court, the only charge was that he had carried a gun for the Taliban.

Mohammed Atta, he was the 9/11 ringleader who secretly met with Iraqi agents in Prague, Atta was the man who piloted a plane into the World Trade Centre in New York City. But he was never in Prague cutting deals with Saddam. And all that anthrax, the only leads that US investigators have come up with are home grown, not the Taliban, not Al-Qaeda.

Recently, Bush vowed to 'prevent Al-Qaeda and other foreign terrorists from turning Iraq into what Afghanistan was under the Taliban'. But it's too late, the CIA and the UN have assessed Iraq after the US-led invasion, to be even more effective as an Islamic terrorist training centre than Afghanistan ever was. They bus them in from Afghanistan now for training and Osama Bin laden is still at large!

After his absurd 'mission accomplished' claim in May 2003, George Bush handed America's highest civil honour, the Presidential medal of Freedom, to some of the key wrong-doers on his side.

CIA director George Tenet who assured the White House that the WMD case for war against Iraq was 'a slam dunk'

Paul Bremer, his Baghdad proconsul, who made the most short-sighted decisions of the occupation, disbanding the Iraqi military and marginalising all the Baathists.

Tommy Franks the general whose failed military planning for the occupation, spawned an insurgency that has killed very close to 2000 young Americans and ten or more times that many Iraqis.

The US has not met its obligations under the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty to move towards nuclear disarmament, but is instead developing the next generation of nuclear weapons. How many pages would you like of the same, but worse.
Posted by The alchemist, Saturday, 15 October 2005 8:47:39 PM
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Philo, Ok, I'll bite- What makes you think the US would supply significant aid in the event of a catastrophe in Australia (unless, of course, it did benefit the US)?
Posted by Swilkie, Saturday, 15 October 2005 11:42:59 PM
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Wow, that caused quite a storm, and rightly so.

- The article was trivial rubbish as many people have already pointed out. I just found this site today and was initially pleased to have done so, it's hard to find commentary online that isn't US focused. The content better pick up though or I'm off.

- I'm not offended by the invasion of Iraq. I'm offended by being blatantly and repeatedly lied to about the reasons for it. If you're going to kill thousands of people at least be up front and tell people why.

- The fact that all three leaders; Tony Blair, John Howard and George Bush, were re-elected absolutely horrifies me. It implies that the populations of their nations are quite happy to have their leaders ignore international law, not to mention basic human rights, so long as their wallets are lined appropriately. This is beyond appalling; I simply cannot find the words, and it bodes ill for the future of the human race.

There were lots of other stupid things in the article and the comments I hate to let pass, but I've said my piece - going to check out the rest of the site now.
Posted by Cur, Thursday, 20 October 2005 2:06:35 PM
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Ben, you go man! Anyone that is not willing to take up arms to assure peace, does not deserve to live in peace. It is certain that there are those that will and do take advantage of those that do not believe in fighting to insure freedom. Islam is one of those that teaches, lie, cheat, steal, deceive, do whatever it takes to win. Read the Quran and the commentaries of the teachers of Islam if you don't believe me.
However, I tend to think that black gold is the real and underlying reason that the U.S. is in Iraq. It seems that China and a few others are out to grab as much of that rapidly dwindling resource as they can before it runs out in about a hundred years or less according to those who keep track of it. Whoever gets in position to control the worlds' remaining oil reserves will rule the planet and would naturally gain control of new resources that are currently being explored and developed such as hydrogen. Personally, I think China is getting prepared to risk, or even start, a nuclear confrontation with the United States in a bid for the control of Middle Eastern oil reserves where about ninty percent of the remaining accessible oil reserves are located. Taiwan is just an excuse to get it started. Ten, nine, eight,.........ignition!
Posted by onewhoknows, Friday, 28 October 2005 11:30:12 AM
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