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Not all about opium: the Marxist attitude to religion : Comments

By Patrick Weiniger, published 28/10/2008

Marx's ideas on religion have been misunderstood: he was an atheist, but he sought to understand religion.

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“Marx's ideas on religion have been widely misrepresented and misunderstood.”

That statement represents the extinct (Marx) driveling on about the improvable (Religion).

So who cares?

How anyone can actually fill three pages of writing on the topic is beyond me, I thought about reading them but realised, it would be five minutes of my life which I would never get back, so I went and took a leak instead.
Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 21 November 2008 9:58:44 AM
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Richie 10 wrote:

Dear David F, Found you again. The only diference Between you and I is the God we chose .I chose the living God .You chose the god of death by your beliefs . The choice has always been Life or Death not Good and evil as you believe . You judge people by the fruit of their life and Hitler did not bare fruit according to life, so he served the god of death . Jesus said come with a child like faith . Simple yet you chose to redicule and complicate his words on faith.

Dear Richie 10,

I don’t choose any God.

There is no choice between life and death for multicelled human beings. All of us die. Multicelled human beings produce one-celled humans in the form of sperm and eggs. Most of them also die. A very few sperm get together with a very few eggs to produce more multicelled humans.

Some multicelled humans prefer to deny death and imagine that they will exist in some form after death. As long as they are harmless and are able to function reasonably well they should be left alone.

There are many differences between us. Another difference is that I prefer to use good grammar although I make an occasional mistake. It is correct grammar to write ‘between you and me’ not ‘between you and I’. When the first person pronoun is an object of a preposition or verb one should use the objective case of the first person. The right word to use is me.

However, you are correct that I do judge people by the fruit of their life. I don’t ridicule Jesus’ words. I question many of them, as I think he was very mistaken and arrogant in some of the words attributed to him. I see no more reason that I should respect Jesus’ words than anybody else’s words. Of course, Jesus may just be a composite figure and may never have said the words attributed to him.

I think an adult having a childlike faith should grow up.
Posted by david f, Friday, 21 November 2008 3:39:54 PM
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Dear David f , Jesus christ the creator, God the Son , made it very clear that if you didn't accept his offer of salvation that YOU condemn yourself to eternity with the god of this world, there are no fence sitters you are either spending eternity with the good shepherd or with the goat herder with the 2 pronged fork. So old mate if you think you can dodge the issue by not making a decision or through not believing it won't cut it and to make matters worse you have to die to prove your right or I am right. Then it is to late to have a change of heart . There were many eyewitnesses who attested to the fact that Jesus rose from the dead giving further validity to his words . By whose authority do you validate your beliefs and words. I don't have to validate God's word that is his job . But be very careful that you don't have to validate your word for death can come like a thief in the night for none of us know the hour or the day . A good dose of fear of the Living God may be what you need for a wakeup call. I went to the funeral of a school friend of my youngest son last month very sad and unexpected as he was only 23. Bad things happen nobody is exempt.
Posted by Richie 10, Friday, 21 November 2008 8:13:56 PM
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Dear Richie 10,
Now you are pushing Jesus as boogeyman. If you don’t swallow his mumbo jumbo you’ll be in trouble. Your brand of Christianity is a psychopathic religion that thrives on fear, and you try to spread the fear. That is sickness.

Grow up.

There are no gods.

Just live a good life, be kind, question and follow your reason.

Buddha doesn’t ask you to believe any mumbo jumbo. Fractelle posted these words of Buddha:

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

It makes much more sense than a religion relying on primitive fear like yours
Posted by david f, Friday, 21 November 2008 8:49:24 PM
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