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Letter-writing professor reluctantly hounded by heaven : Comments

By Greg Clarke, published 14/10/2008

C.S. Lewis' letters reveal a bruised and open heart that was thoroughly and painfully explored by the God he came, reluctantly, to believe in.

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"Christianity is about freedom, not domination, control and manipulation."

I've never heard that before. From my experience it's always been about getting me to believe and behave as someone else wants me to, under threat of damnation or something. You seem enlightened Steel Mann, perhaps it's other Christians that could do with some help.

"Man is the religious animal. He is the only religious animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion -— several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat, if his theology isn't straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother's path to happiness and heaven."

~ Mark Twain
Posted by bennie, Friday, 17 October 2008 1:06:17 PM
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Never found a contradiction Fractelle.

Everything is in its right place...in its right season.

I read it and listened to it for 23 years, and more, and never found an error.
You must have been listening to satans old lie that stops you from getting close to it?

I mentioned Lucifer somewhere here.
Posted by Gibo, Friday, 17 October 2008 2:00:59 PM
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In its right season? Pull the other one Gibo. For most people the bible means whatever they want it to mean. The rest are stone-throwing creationists.
Posted by bennie, Friday, 17 October 2008 2:46:38 PM
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For my part I firstly can’t see why everyone talks about “THE” bible, as though there is only one such thing ... each sect seems to make up its own compilation and version of available writings. There are, for instance, the Massoretic or Septuagint versions, and then the Catholic, the Orthodox, the Protestant, within which are Luther’s denunciations of various books, and the Jehovah’s Witness and the Mormon versions ... it seems there are many bibles, each sect decides its own by means of a very human manipulation.
For God sitting Moses down and then dictating to him, Gibo, you haven’t told us what language he dictated in and what language Moses wrote in, as the Hebrew script hadn’t been invented at that time, and Moses was educated in Egypt in the hieratic script. And why would he have given two versions of Creation, one calling God “El”, and the other “JHWH”? And where did your names for the authors of the Gospels come from, as none have the authors’ authorizations, and are only given by tradition. Do you give tradition any authority?
And just what did these authors write? ... as whilst we have pieces of the writings in existence, none are the originals and none of these copies of copies are exactly the same, and compilers give a variety of warnings about which version is preferred. We might be willing to say an original book or letter was inspired by God, but we certainly can’t make that claim of any copy, and so the copies that we have compiled into our various ‘bibles’ can have no claim to God’s inspiration whatever.
And then the claim “that all scripture is inspired by God ..” has problems, as the Greek word translated as “scripture” is “graphae” which means “literature”, and doesn’t have the religious connotation we give the word “scripture”. Close by in this same letter is the reference to “holy literature” and this is more what we give the meaning to ‘scripture’.
Posted by AveAtqueVale, Friday, 17 October 2008 4:38:38 PM
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AveAtqueVale

A most welcome post, which I am sure Gibo will find a challenge:

You can lead a religious fundamentalist to the pool of knowledge but you can't make him think.
Posted by Fractelle, Saturday, 18 October 2008 6:03:19 AM
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No way am I going with you guys:)

Youre full of argument and fallen mans thoughts...and so often on this site it comes out as nothing at all of meaning.

The Holy Bible is the Word of God... and its all INTERPRETED with The Holy Spirit Who lives inside the born again christian.

The Holy Spirit confirms The Word as TRUTH.

Without The Holy Spirit in you, you simply dont know The Word or its journey through all of history or the huge power that it has to save lost souls and to heal people.

You arent ever going to know the TRUTH of The Word until you are born again (John 3:3)...and that means you have to confess your personal sin to God and ask Jesus into your lives as Lord and Saviour (the Saviour Who saves you from the Final Judgment. "All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God...Romans 3:23).

Until you are born again any talk against the Holy Bible is the vacant, carnel discussions of fallen men amd women who criticise everything they doesnt like or understand.

Invite Jesus Christ into your lives ...and then read the Word... and then you can talk about The Word.
Posted by Gibo, Saturday, 18 October 2008 7:03:48 AM
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