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Breaking the truce on abortion : Comments

By David van Gend, published 12/9/2008

How come a 24-week baby is a citizen deserving protection when wrapped in hospital blankets, but human waste when wrapped in the womb?

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I find it ever so odious that those people who oppose abortion
overlook the real problems that women encounter carrying a baby to term
overlook the real mental health problems of post partum depression experienced by 10% of women

I find it absolutely flabbergasting that the people who oppose abortion expect nay demand the women who unwillingly bear the child be expected to raise the child properly until its 15. Remember Daniel Valerio and the countless other abused children growing up in single parent families on our generous social security
Posted by billie, Saturday, 13 September 2008 6:48:30 PM
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Even disregarding the purple prose I also found that 24 week stipulation thought provoking so I did some searching around and found that only 1% of abortions are requested at this time and that in all cases they were like the case already mentioned in another post i.e. unusual and compelling circumstances.

Also the fact that two doctors have to agree upon the necessity for such a late-term termination was put in as a safe-guard as no doctor fancied rising the chance that s/he could be subsequently up on murder charges if an error of judgement or diagnosis had been made.

I also found figures quoted on a couple of sites that said 77% of respondents identifying themselves as Christians voted in favour and 68% of those specifically identifying as Catholic also voted in favour
Posted by Romany, Saturday, 13 September 2008 6:57:30 PM
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I too am pro-choice, however when the author quotes a paediatrician:

“The pain experienced during “partial birth abortions” by the human fetus would have a much greater intensity than any similar procedures performed in older age groups.”

then inflicting pain on a 24 week foetus cannot be justified.

I imagine there would be few terminations at 24 weeks anyway when:

Screening for Down syndrome at 11-14 weeks or 15-20 weeks
Screening for neural tube defects at 10-14 weeks or 15-20 weeks
A foetal anomaly scan at 18-20 weeks’ gestation.

So does the author approve early term abortions?

Or has the author raised this thread from a religious conviction? Misguided convictions too since the religious are notorious for ending the lives of other species in the most depraved and sadistic manner.

So what's good for the geese is not good for the ganders....errrr if you know what I mean!

All 6.5 billion of them in plague proportions!
Posted by dickie, Saturday, 13 September 2008 8:10:56 PM
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Dickie: It is not only the religious who are adept at extermination. Throughout the twentieth century, the Nazi and Marxist movements were both responsible for eliminating millions of people. Both these movements were anti religious I believe.

This is an interesting debate, but we must all be careul to avoid inaccuracies, overgeneralisations, guilt by association, and slander. Although the Republican movement in the US is pro-life, this does not mean that everyone with pro-life views agrees with Republican foreign policy, especially where the Middle East is concerned.

Billie: I see your point, however you did not mention the high incidence of depression among women who do have abortions. Some of the women I have asked about abortion state that they were pressured into terminating their pregnancies.

Clearly it is not possible (or advisable) to make rash statements about a very complex and emotional issue.
Posted by Josh_for_social_justice, Saturday, 13 September 2008 8:30:58 PM
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You cannot comment on an abortion, unless you know the circumstances of why an abortion had to take place. To summise is just a waste of time.
Posted by jason60, Saturday, 13 September 2008 8:42:32 PM
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Josh_for_social_justice,"the high incidence of depression among women who do have abortions" - OH YEAH.
Clearly it is not possible (or advisable) to make rash statements about a very complex and emotional issue. YEP
Posted by billie, Saturday, 13 September 2008 10:08:58 PM
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