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Meeting the carbon challenge? The place of your house in the city : Comments
By Juris Geste, published 25/7/2008Expecting to meet the carbon challenge without adjusting our cities is like telling your doctor you want a lung cancer cure without giving up smoking!
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Posted by All-, Sunday, 27 July 2008 9:18:09 AM
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You are right All.Penny Wong did say that we would have to adjust to the new world order.[Interviewed by Barrie Cassidy on the 13/7/08.]This means being subjugated by the UN.I never thought that they would be so brazen about their intentions.
This new carbon tax is open to rorting.It is unmeasureable and nebulous.As Dr Evans said "You just make stuff up.It is like angels dancing on the head of a pin."People and aninmals breathe out CO2. Cows produce 25% of world's so called GW gases in the form of methane.What are they going to tax and by how much? Will they put a tax on breathing or on the meat we eat beacuse of methane.Be rest assured,those like Al Gore at the top of the food chain will make a fortune out of our misery. Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 27 July 2008 10:15:16 AM
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Thylacine – love your work.
You will be interested, if not aware already, in the latest Ockham’s Razor, presented by Ian Dunlop, former Head of the Australian Institute of Directors and now Deputy Convenor of the Australian Association for the study of Peak Oil. Extract below: “We face major changes to our lifestyle. It is not just high oil prices and global warming but the very question of the sustainability of humanity on the planet as population rises from 6.-1/2-billion people today to 9-billion in 2050, all aspiring to an improved quality of life. New technology will undoubtedly come to our aid but that will not be enough; our values must also change. Conventional economic growth in the developed world will have to be set aside in favour of a steady-state economy where the emphasis is on non-consumption and the quality of life rather than the quantity of things. There will be far more focus on local food production, opening up new opportunities for rural areas; cities will be redesigned using high-density sustainability principles to avoid urban sprawl, and properly integrated with public transport to minimise energy consumption. Work centres will be decentralised. Rail, powered by renewable energy, will become a major transport mode for both freight and high-speed passenger traffic. Air travel will reduce unless new technology develops jet fuel from, for example, bio sources, and even then emission constraints may limit its use. The internal combustion engine will disappear in favour of electric vehicles for many applications. Cycling and walking will become major activities for both work and pleasure - obesity and diabetes will decline! The challenge is enormous, but it is the greatest opportunity we have ever had to place the world on a sustainable footing, for what we are doing currently is not sustainable. We must not waste this opportunity, but it needs far bolder and broader thinking than we are seeing at present.” Full program at: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/ockhamsrazor/stories/2008/2313512.htm#transcript To those who hold an open mind - well worth a listen. Posted by Fractelle, Sunday, 27 July 2008 10:25:17 AM
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If you come to understand its entirety the thoughts and reasons that become Occams Razor; (Only taken 4 years to re introduce it); and it is out of context; then you would be quite familiar with a word; Solipsism;
You only seem to apply the theology to Cosmopolitan existence and forget the greater expanse of this continent; Then consider the political and Bureaucratic incompetence, perhaps more criminal intent than thoughtless incompetence than anything else; then you will appreciate what are the defining attributes of Occas Razor; and the technical attributes of the terminology of Solipsism. Perhaps if you could for a moment understand what constitutes science? An E book; Volume 5 REASON IN SCIENCE Volume Five of "The Life of Reason" GEORGE SANTAYANA And if you enjoy reading; "The Structure of Scientific Revolution”; by Thomas S Kuhn will teach you how Philosophical corruption has be construed as scientific inclusionment. A new word; this word you will come to know; "Paradigm shift". 1+1=9 and Labour party pseudo accounting techniques. Then you will know with out doubt or any ambiguity, we are being lied to. The main question that every single soul needs to ask themselves is Why? Posted by All-, Sunday, 27 July 2008 11:05:38 AM
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thylacine “agreed on by a large number of scientists and disagreed by others, like you Col. It's a free country.”
However, we will not be free to contract out of the carbon tax rort. AGW / carbon taxes is disagreed with by a large number of other scientists, business leaders and most importantly, electors and a represents patent case of a government going beyond its authority by imposing taxes which are not needed to fund the necessary work of government. “Col, anything that prevents you from doing what you want to do is Socialism, including probably keeping to the left hand side of the road.” Not at all. I have consistently supported the need for government, acting as a regulator. However, how I and even you decide to spend our discretionary income is not the necessary work or interest of government. Such designs on social control is the work of economic despots. However, thylacine, your simplistic pronouncements and attempts at talking down to us are typical what one would expect from something which has achieved extinction (if only we could say that with all the socialist swill). All “it has well and truly overtaken the murderous and Idiocy of Communism – and its syntheses of Socialism.” I would agree there. Socialism by Stealth, removing the purchasing opportunities of the able to fund the mythical carbon needs and costs of the mediocre, Typical socialism and as Lenin said “the goal of Socialism is Communism” You will note here on this post we see a couple of “Lenin’s Useful Idiots” defending the corrupt and indefensible. Anyone with an open mind is challenging this attempt at individual oppression. Krudd is a one-term prime minister. Another 2 ½ years of this swill and he will be higher on the nose than a dead whale, left out to rot for three week. Posted by Col Rouge, Sunday, 27 July 2008 6:57:16 PM
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Love some of this guff, particularly references to Prof Andy Pitman. Pitman agrees with the science associated with ice-core research, he also agrees with natural climate variation due to sunspots, our orbit as well as historical data on global warming and ice age periods. None of this changes the fact that human induced global warming is happening in spite of any of these natural impacts. For example, we hear of the last decade being in a cooling period, this is a relevant fact and according to science will occur every 40-50 years. Hence we have the same temperature cooling in the early 20th century, again in the 1940's and the past decade. There is no dispute for this evidence but it is also undeniable that the overall trend for the last hundred years is historically significant and upwards. Many bloogers here seem to think that there is some sort of idealogical nonsense at work, it's a pity that they let their idealogy interfere with their intelligence.
Posted by sillyfilly, Monday, 28 July 2008 2:08:02 PM
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I think Penny Wong had let the cat out of the bag with her droll and lifeless voice when she proclaims it as a Part of the New World Order; or in a language everyone can understand – Parasites gorging, and Self Imposed Barons high up on the Grand Pyramid of Freudian paradigm created Ponzy scheme, eating away at your sovereignty; organized theft of any wealth you may have.
You must realise the winds of change in doctrine; a PhD in History had meant Post Honours degree, - Now days it represents Post Hock Drivel – headed by the Freudian Paradigm Parasites;
OO Many thought Governments were for the people. But are now the democratically elected destroyers of the people.
Makes me feel good that we can elect our assassin?