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Meeting the carbon challenge? The place of your house in the city : Comments

By Juris Geste, published 25/7/2008

Expecting to meet the carbon challenge without adjusting our cities is like telling your doctor you want a lung cancer cure without giving up smoking!

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I wonder who I'll be able to sue for compensation in the coming years after the Labor party introduces the carbon tax?

Al Gore? Kevin Rudd? The Labor Party?

Basically the carbon tax is nothing but a swindle, where the average Australian will pay to make the rich, richer.

this is not to say we should not take steps to reduce pollution, when Western governments introduced laws to reduce pollution, manufacturing just moved off shore to countries that did not have laws against pollution.
Posted by JamesH, Friday, 25 July 2008 8:48:39 AM
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Its nice to have a few dreamers about but this is what this article is--only a dream.
Posted by Sniggid, Friday, 25 July 2008 10:10:59 AM
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My suburb was planned in the 1970s. Nothing new in the ideals the author states. They are the obvious and all embraced in my suburd.

One thing, I work as a business consultant. A job role which cannot be supported by the industry in my local area, I wish it could.

Despite the bus and the train station I to wherever I need to get to, usually at least 50k round trip.

“Expecting to meet the carbon challenge without adjusting our cities is like telling your doctor you want a lung cancer cure without giving up smoking! And exempting petrol from the ETS is equivalent to loosening your belt to deal with obesity.”

I would like to know exactly what else I can “adjust” to meet the “carbon challenge”, my suburb complying already with the authors list of ideals “tests”.

But before anyone tells me I have to change, I want to know why?

What proof that the shenanigans of "Australian" carbon tax will actually produce any "Global" benefit?

All I know is carbon taxation is going to be used for increasing the cost of services and products I but through artificial means to meet some mythical notion of politicians.

It is Socialism by Stealth.

It is not designed to raise taxes needed to meet the legitimate needs of government.

It is a deliberate attempt by government to reduce the consumption choices, through increasing prices to the electorate.

Governments are not elected to curb the choices of their electorate, they are elected to reflect the will and best interests of the electorate.

Before installing this carbon tax, this government needs to consider

Do they have proof of the dangers of carbon emission and

Do they have proof of the benefits to be derived from the curtailment of carbon emissions.

If they lack that proof, they are leading the electorate into an impossible and illegitimate position.

And what happens “globally” without India or Chinas support?

The only consequence of a carbon tax will be monetary INFLATION and we will have Krudd and Co to blame for -

Socialism by Stealth
Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 25 July 2008 10:52:30 AM
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It's all very well to move into a tree-lined street but the predations of council workers armed with chainsaws mindlessly trimming up shrubs, or Optus cable maintainers chopping the crown out of mature trees to protect their precious cable as well as electricity linesmen have actually degraded the urban streetscape in my neighbourhood.

We have a long way to go to reduce our reliance on private cars for daily living.

That said it must be imperative for new houses to be aligned so they are solar passive as well as installing solar panels on the northern roofline and the 200 litre water tank.

If people were encouraged to install solar panels on northern rooves that aren't overshadowed so they can feed excess power back into the grid this would reduce the growth in domestic electricity usage.
Posted by billie, Friday, 25 July 2008 12:07:41 PM
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The ice cores taken back in 2003 have revealed that CO2 follows temp increases by some 800 yrs.They thought that the reverse was true and even Dr David Evans who was 90% sure in 1999 is only 20% certain that CO2 is the culprit or that even GW is actually occurring.
see; http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/DavidEvanswager.html

The more I read about AGW,the less I believe in it.With $50 billion now given to science for research,the theory now has a lot of political momentum.Already the Rudd Govt is hedging it's bets.They are now calling it carbon pollution and thus at a convienent time the word "carbon" will be dropped.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 25 July 2008 12:25:22 PM
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David Evans has been oft quoted here as a basis for argument on climate change. However as UNSW Professor Andy Pitman explained in a reply on 2gb on 23/7, his assertions and assumptions are as incorrect as those provide on the GGWS (Check CSIRO). So please do not rely on another sceptic to provide the true science.
Posted by sillyfilly, Friday, 25 July 2008 2:05:43 PM
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